[MEGoody]

"I could no more choose to find sex with a man enjoyable"

You might also not choose to find eating twinkies for every meal enjoyable. But someone else might. Yet if they gave in to that temptation, no one would be running around saying 'it wasn't a choice - they were born that way.'

We may not choose what tempts us, but we do choose to resist or give in to that temptation.

[BikerNYC]

I don't find anything you said unreasonable. There is a lot of confused thinking about what exactly it is that we choose. Do I choose to be sexually attracted to women? No. Do I choose to go to bed with, let's say, Stephanie on any particular occasion? Yes.

I don't think that anyone is arguing that we don't choose to actually have sex with those people with whom we actually have sex. Yes, it is a conscious choice to strip down and do it.

But that's not what makes a person gay or straight, is it? Just doing an act? I mean, anyone can do the act, whatever that act might be. It's just physical movement. I mean, I have to admit, if I were paid a million dollars to have sex with a man, I would consider it. Would that make me gay? Not in my mind.

Isn't it the desire to do the act, whatever the act might be, what places a person in the gay or straight camp? And if, as you say, desire is not chosen, how can we say that being gay or straight is chosen?