Latest Lib Urban Legend - "California is Leaving"

unknown ^ | 30 Jan 04 | unknown

[sauropod]

To Californistan:

Kiss my @$$!!!

[Pajamajan]

"Don't give those places to the Blue Nation til I get out of here!"

How about moving to California? Help us take it back from the Blue menace. Did I mention we have great weather almost year round? Blue skies and sunshine today :-)

[El Laton Caliente]

Quote:"You get all the technological innovation in Alabama."

Doesn't even know Intergraph, NASA and a lot of other high tech are based/have major facilities in Huntsville. (I know that and I'm from Texas!)

The arrogance of the left knows no bounds…

[NordP]

Yep, more room in this wonderful State for us!

[socal_parrot]

California income tax tops out at 10 or 11 percent. California has a sales tax as well, at 8%. California has high automobile taxes.

California ranks number 26 in State and Local Tax burden, pretty much in the middle and behind a lot of "red states". The average Californian pays 9.8% in State and local taxes. Nevadans, who don't pay state income tax pay 9.7%. When Federal taxes are added in, the State's tax burden rank jumps to number 10. Your welcome for the support. My local sales tax is 7.75%

California gives medical benefits to illegal immigrants.

Only because the Federal government is forcing us to. Californians passed Prop. 187 which restricted giving medical benefits to illegals, only to be slapped around by the Feds. If the Federal government would do it's job and controlled the borders, the tax burden on the state would be less because we wouldn't have to pay for millions of this country's illegals.

Many California cities and counties have rather draconian hoops that a property owner must jump through just to remodel a house. Some counties and cities have rent control laws that prevent a landlord from raising the rent to a market level, which further reduces the supply of housing, because no one wants to be a landlord if they can't profit from raising the rent. Moreover, California landlord-tenant law is so biased in favor of the tenant that it can take months to get a non-paying tenant out.

City and County laws do not cover the whole state. As for landlord tenant law, I am a landlord and have evicted tenants for nonpayment. It may take a month or two to get them out, but the money owed can be and is recoverable.

Because of zoning laws, much of the open space in California cannot be developed, further driving up the cost of land and housing.

Again zoning laws are a county or city matter. A lot of the open space you speak of is left open due to Federal law, such endangered species statutes, and wetland or forest protection.

Instead of being guided by the free market, most of California is controlled by leftists who know what's best for everybody.

That's pretty general and very vague. The Governator is working on removing some of the regulations controlling business. He is especially working on lessening the Workman's Comp. burden on businesses.

As for Socialism, Californians rejected socialized medicine in the last election. There will be another run in the next election on limiting benefits for illegals. There are many areas of this state, The Bay Area and LA County for example, that are leftist. But to brand the whole state socialist, is not based in fact. The county I live in, Orange voted for Bush 60%. The county where I have a vacation home, San Bernardino, voted for Bush 54% and my Congressman there, Jerry Lewis (R) was re-elected with a 84% vote tally.

[Classicaliberalconservative]

No flaming man. I agree with you

[Pajamajan]

"more votes for Bush in California than in any other state"

There are also more Freepers in Ca (including our beloved founder/leader) than in any other state.

Hey, if Iraq and Afghanistan can restore democracy, there's still hope for us ;-)

[smonk]

it just got much easier for republicans to win the electoral college, and for the Arizona Diamondbacks to win the NL West.

[FITZ]

Texas growth to be non-Anglo

Gary Scharrer
Austin Bureau
AUSTIN -- A dramatic population transformation in Texas means that non-Anglos will make up 56 percent of the labor force and 80 percent of public school enrollment within the next generation, state demographer Steve Murdock said Saturday.

Unless current education and economic trends change, income will actually decline by $6,500 per household 35 years from now, Murdock emphasized during a legislative issues conference sponsored by the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, or NALEO, and the Mexican American Legislative Caucus.

Between now and 2040, 96 percent of change in the state's population will be non-Anglo.

"The demographic reality for Texas is that our future is tied to non-Anglo populations and particularly the Hispanic population," Murdock said. "And how well they do is how well Texas will do.

"The reality is our fates are intertwined and interrelated in Texas, and we should not forget that," the demographer said.

But the trend line is not looking good. Texas ranked No. 45 in the country in the percentage of adults with high-school education, according to 2000 census information. Since then, Texas has fallen to No. 50. Murdock also told of a school superintendent who recently told him about one elderly Anglo voter's perspective after a school bond election failed: "'I'm not ready to raise my taxes to educate 'those' people.'"

"This is dangerous for Texas," Murdock said.

Anglos lost their status as the state's majority population in 2003.

Earlier in the conference, NALEO leaders highlighted the underperforming nature of the Latino electorate. Though 72 percent of Anglos are registered to vote across the country, only 57 percent of Hispanics are registered.

"Latino voting needs to improve dramatically to reflect the growing Latino population," said El Paso County Attorney José Rodríguez, who attended the conference.

The state's shifting labor force to one consisting primarily of Hispanics is especially noteworthy, Rodríguez said. "We're going to be the workers that are going to drive the economy of this state and unless we participate in the electoral process, we will not be making determinations about industry, about jobs, about education," he said.

Most Texans probably are unaware of the population transformation, Rodríguez said, and many of the politicians appear to be in denial about the implications.

Last session, "the state of Texas reduced health-care funding for CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program), and the highest percentage of those enrolled are Hispanic children," he said. "What is that telling us? That they are not thinking about having healthy children who will grow into the work force for this state."

Gary Scharrer may be reached at gscharrer@ elpasotimes.com; (512) 479-6606.

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/20050130-17492.shtml

[NorCalRepub]

haha.......it near as bad as some here would think....politics for the most part is a minority position in my life

[NorCalRepub]

wow.........thanks for that intellectual discourse and well thought out opinion........

[durasell]

That's gratifying. Two responses I've gotten are both positive.

I blame the media for those dumb maps. They're divisive.

[Dog Gone]

The California-bashing threads are right up there with the Catholic-bashing threads. In some respects, they're far more inflammatory, as I don't recall many posts hoping for the destruction of the Vatican or the death of all Catholics.

Maybe I just missed it. I tend to frequent California threads more than Catholic threads.

[FITZ]

And a related story --- notice how it's unfair for the hispanics to be expected to pay their share of taxes but they need to vote to get ahold of the "anglos" money --

Ex-state judge has grim hopes for covering gap in Texas' school funding

Gary Scharrer
El Paso Times

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AUSTIN -- Texas lawmakers won't have enough money to cover essential services, much less to adequately finance public education, several experts told a conference of Hispanic leaders Saturday.

They expressed concerns that legislators would increase consumer taxes that hit low-income families the hardest, and that equity gaps between rich and poor schools would widen.

Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn has projected that lawmakers would have a modest $400 million surplus this session. But that figure assumes again raiding the "Rainy Day" fund and ignores increases in higher education enrollment, said a retired state judge, F. Scott McCown.

"We are at least $1.5 billion short of having enough money to do in the next biennium (two years) what we are doing in this biennium," McCown told a conference of Mexican American Legislative Caucus and National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials. McCown is executive director of the Center for Public Policy Priorities, a think tank based in Austin.

Lawmakers face a tough dilemma, McCown said: "Regressive taxes versus critical needs for education and other services. What do we do?"

Low- and mid-wealth school districts fear that lawmakers will allow rich schools to keep a sizeable revenue advantage after creating a proposed "local enrichment" tax tier to supplement a statewide property tax.

Every child should have similar resources for his education, said Wayne Pierce, head of the Equity Center, a consortium representing more than 600 property-poor and midwealth school districts.

"There should be no discrimination against a 5-year-old child," he said. "What is scary is that there are people who believe that to be radical.

"Children are God's gift to Texas, and we shouldn't turn our back on that gift," he said.

Texans have been fighting for equitable school funding since a San Antonio parent filed a federal lawsuit 30 years ago.

The current funding gap between rich and poor schools is about $450,000 per elementary school classroom.

"I am optimistic. We'll eventually get a better education system. Unfortunately, in Texas it just takes us longer," said Norma Cantu, a University of Texas law professor and a veteran of school funding battles.

Hispanic children make up 44 percent of the state's public school enrollment, compared with 39 percent who are Anglo, and the Hispanic student population will continue to increase.

That's why it's important for Hispanics to participate in elections, said El Paso County Attorney José Rodríguez, who attended the conference.

"If we do not vote, we will not have a voice on how we structure the funding of our public schools," he said.

Gary Scharrer may be reached at gscharrer@elpasotimes.com; (512) 479-6606.

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/20050130-17499.shtml

[Pajamajan]

"I just viewed it as an opportunity to bash California"

How are you enjoying freezing your back end off in that ice storm Laz?
Ho hum, must be terrible, all the cold weather , power outages exc... where you are.

I just can't decide what to do here (in so Cal), while I'm looking out my window at the clear blue sky, with the seventy degree gentle breeze coming in through the window, and the snow capped mountains in the back ground....

Let's see, I could go to the beach, the mountains or the desert, and be back tonight. This living is not too bad for a January day ;-P

I'm making a new rule:

- Any Freeper who bashes California has to move here and help us take it back from the libs.

SO when can we expect you ?

[smonk]

---wow.........thanks for that intellectual discourse and well thought out opinion........---

yeah, the hatred for california is pretty surprising. I forget the title of the thread a few days ago, but it got flooded with posts implying that the whole state is overrun with illegals, gays, whackos, and *gasp* hollywood types. just generally hateful, mean-spirited stuff.

I just didn't get it.

[disclaimer: I was born in los altos]

[american spirit]

Good stuff.....thank you. It should be increasingly obvious that there is a stealth takeover of many public offices by pro-Mexico/pro-illegal agents of influence. That fact combined with the idiotic Motor Voter law lays the groundwork for a co-ordinated effort to promote a pro-hispanic agenda that can be implemented at the local as well as state level.

All groups like LULAC, La Raza, etc. will have to do in the future is get "their community" to launch a unceasing barrage at public officials and pummel them into submission until they get what they want which won't be too hard considering the number of gutless wonders we've voted in to supposedly to represent the interests of average, voting Americans. Let's face facts....we've been sized up, set up and in the process of being sold out.

[Pajamajan]

You have to move to California now. It's a new Freeper Rule. See post 115. What date will you be moving?

[GOP_Raider]

The Republic of California better find a cure for AIDS quick. It's going to spread through their new republic like wildfire.

Not to be a stickler for grammar, but I believe the present tense would work a little better here.

[Altamira]

Thanks for correcting some of my misconceptions! I'm glad it's not as bad as I thought!