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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 30 January 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 30 January 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/30/2005 4:56:39 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: YaYa123

Oh, dear; looking duely stressed, Chrissy boy is trying to find ANYBODY to rain on this parade!

"Why go to the trouble to register to vote in Iraq and then not vote?"


1,001 posted on 01/30/2005 3:19:56 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: section9

You spotted that, too? Condi knows how to project the image of a "woman in power" and today was the perfect example to do just that.

One of the advantages non-left women have is they have no problem using their body image as a weapon of intimidation.

Hillary Clinton, for example, is a bully in private, a blowhard in public and at her core a very insecure, inarticulate weakling. Not someone who can project confidence without an army of courtiers.

Condi sits back, speaks, and turns her ankle and the world falls to its knees.


1,002 posted on 01/30/2005 3:27:43 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: Howlin
Chris Matthews accusing FOX news of spinning is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black. He said Fox was hyping the percentage of those who voted, but had to admit anything over 50% was remarkable. (He doesn't bother to say that over 60% is the most current estimate. 8 million voted today, so said Brit Hume.

On Hardball, Woolsey former CIA Director and David Kay are both optimistic about what comes next, and Matthews congratulated Woolsey for being right about the turnout of this election day.

1,003 posted on 01/30/2005 3:30:47 PM PST by YaYa123 (@MSNBC Just Can't Get It Right.com)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Yep, the Montana "Long-Riders."


1,004 posted on 01/30/2005 3:35:31 PM PST by CDB
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To: cajungirl; section9; ariamne
I think they [those such as the audience cajungirl mentioned in her post 991 in response to my 942] view things so differently because they presently understand themselves as identified in terms of the marxist categories of class, ethnicity, gender etc.

If they could come to understand their identity as deeper than that, there would be the precondition for their reassessment of these political notions.

Such changes, however, are not usually likely unless they become dis-illusioned. This is why political persuasion of those who are truly opposed, is so frustrating and has such small prospect of success.

So many ARE up for grabs, however, because they are not acqauinted with their own fundamental principles--they are not conscious of them, despite the role of those principles in their lives.

Let's take, for example, the notion of section9 that Condi's physical appearance and dress could be decisive with certain voters in a contest with Hillary. For instance, would the NY fashionpolice types go for Condi over Hillary if they thought she was more savvy, more hip, more attractive than Hillary ---despite the possible unattractiveness [for them] of the political principles which Condi would represent?

Maybe only those who are truly unconscious of their own fundamental principles would be available for such persuasion. That's OK because these are the more numerous types anyhow.

But perhaps section9 means more than that: that even very leftist women (at least) would be attracted to a fit and savvy Condi over a dumpy Hillary. If that is what Chirs means, why does he think that this is true? I liked his analysis, and wonder how far he thinks that it goes.

Section9 uses the language that Condi--who does nothing by accident--is sending signals to various audiences [including her Main Enemy who she wishes to dislocate]. Are those signals to the differing audiences intended to be consciously or unconsciously received?

1,005 posted on 01/30/2005 3:37:47 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: YaYa123
Even for Chris Matthews, I CANNOT Believe how he is trying to blame the positive reporting today as all coming from FOXNEws. Stephen Hayes corrected him, and said he didn't get these positive reports from only FOX, he told Chris he was watching MSNBC and CNN too, but count on it! Chris Matthews will repeat this "blame FOX" theory ad nausaum. Rather than credit the Bush administration, and the Iraqi people, Matthews will continue to claim the good news out of Iraq today is nothing but spinning hype.
1,006 posted on 01/30/2005 3:44:53 PM PST by YaYa123 (@MSNBC Just Can't Get It Right.com)
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To: Carolinamom

You are right on! The Clinton Cabal is scheming, plotting and calculating .. every word, every occasion, every appearance .. the spell is about to be cast in a very orchestrated fashion. Be very afraid .. for the minds filled with mush who will drink the Kool Aid.


1,007 posted on 01/30/2005 3:49:37 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: YaYa123
Judith Miller of the New York Times reminds Chris Matthews that this election today isn't the only election Bush can be proud of. There was the election in Afghanistan and Palestine, and she said, I think the people in the Bush administration can feel pretty good tonight.

Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard tells Chris, yes, this will help Bush with Social Security, gives him more capital. Matthews ruefully says "Bush is like Trump....he keeps on winning."

1,008 posted on 01/30/2005 3:52:34 PM PST by YaYa123 (@MSNBC Just Can't Get It Right.com)
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To: YaYa123

Judith Miller of the New York Times tells Chris Matthews "something remarkable happened today. "People voted in Syria today", she said. Chris said "what , for dog catcher?". Miller had to explain that Iraqis living in Syria got to vote today, and Stephen Hayes told Chris that this remarkkable vote won't be lost on Syrians, who don't have the right to vote. (Chris had to know the significance of what Judith was saying, but he tried, transparently, to belittle the importance of what she said.


1,009 posted on 01/30/2005 4:00:39 PM PST by YaYa123 (@MSNBC Just Can't Get It Right.com)
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To: Txsleuth


YES!
He looked to be searching for words.
I agree with your take "wholeheartedly."


1,010 posted on 01/30/2005 4:01:46 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: NautiNurse

Why oh why was Kerry given an entire MTP edition? To top that off, my cable system experienced probems with Fox this morning. The only good thing about Kerry's appearance was that I could say 'Thank God you're not President!'


1,011 posted on 01/30/2005 4:05:06 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: section9
Nothing is done by accident by Condi Rice.

You have great insight. I also believe this same statement can be absolutely applied to Hillary .. in spades. She's already begin the propaganda phase.

1,012 posted on 01/30/2005 4:06:43 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: mware
I followed a link to DU from National Review to see what was going there.
I will never learn.
Nothing but scare quotes and nazi referrences spit out at the end of each sentence.

No thought, no priciples, no ideals.
1,013 posted on 01/30/2005 4:07:28 PM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: onyx

1,014 posted on 01/30/2005 4:07:49 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs


We are SO fortunate that he was soundly defeated.


1,015 posted on 01/30/2005 4:11:28 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: section9

ooops .. begin= beGUN


1,016 posted on 01/30/2005 4:15:46 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: Savage Beast
Can you tell Kerry from Dukakis, Gore, McGovern, Mondale, Dean...? These people all look alike to me.

Kerry's the one who looks like Francis the Talking Mule, without the insight.

1,017 posted on 01/30/2005 4:33:34 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: ontos-on

Interesting how white women are prey for the left wingers. Two things about women I know {being one}. They always identify with anyone who has victim status and the second , they always blame someone for it, usually a man. But they don't identify with powerful victims say landowners in Rhodesia {I won't use the new name} who had their life's work snatched from them by thugs. See, those victims are well to do men in their book. They like women victims, black victims, thrird world country victims, poor victims, maimed victims, mad victims and so on. And it is always a white man's fault.


1,018 posted on 01/30/2005 4:37:37 PM PST by cajungirl (my peeps are freeps)
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To: Howlin

Does that embecile not know that Americans do the same thing?


1,019 posted on 01/30/2005 4:37:58 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: CFC__VRWC

Maybe Chris Matthews will have the Smother's Brothers on next week. They make Cavett seem conservative.


1,020 posted on 01/30/2005 4:39:51 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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