[fallujah-nuker]

"Using 20/200 hindsight, do you seriously think that Clinton was a better President from a Conservative standpoint then Bush or Dole would have been?"

I really do not see much of a difference between them where the rubber hits the road. A positive outcome of Clinton's victory was the GOP taking control of congress in 1994, Bush Sr. even made a similar comment at the time. I think Bush has a much better chance of getting another amnesty for illegal aliens passed than a democrat would. Recall that it was Reagan who did so last time in 1986.

Back in 1952 Senator Pat McCarran warned that that immigration would be used to transform America by those who did not like America (Senator McCarran was a Democrat by the way, his positions would put him to the right of every Republican in the Senate today). Ted Kennedy's immigration act of 1965 seems to have done the deed.

From 1952 through 1988 the Republican ticket carried California in every election save 1964, now the Democrats have carried California in 4 straight presidential elections. This is due the demographic shift in California's population due to immigration. Dubya's amnesty plan works for the Democrats, not the GOP.

[RS]

"A positive outcome of Clinton's victory was the GOP taking control of congress in 1994, Bush Sr. even made a similar comment at the time."

... and you take this as some sort of endorsement of Clintons presidency ?

BTW, is the GOP taking control of Congress a good thing from your Conservative point of view ?