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To: swilhelm73
You're missing the point of the article. We were fighting the Japanese and German armies during WW II. After we occupied, yes occupied, their respective countries we were able to stabilize their governments through our overwhelming presence on the ground (a presence we distinctly lack in Iraq). Also, and I know this is going to upset the emotional, fragile types on this forum, our troops weren't placed in a situation were they had targets on their respective backs and thus mistakenly gunned down a family leaving a hysterical 10-year old daughter and a shell-shocked five-year old son. (If you connect to Reed's site that's the hyperlinked 'This happens' - go ahead, click on the link).

Fred has the creds to write what he writes and I agree with him.

8 posted on 01/28/2005 8:37:49 PM PST by Archangelsk (There is nothing more cowardly than a keyboard warrior.)
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To: Archangelsk

No, I'm not missing the point. Though the author and you are.

There indeed is no such thing as neutral reporting, and until the Vietnam War few if any American reporters during a conflict would have desired to be neutral. They were *American* reporters.

The press currently claims this amoral neutrality, which would be bad enough were it real, while in fact supporting our foes.

Even one were to believe Bush was the evil moron the press does, trying to lose the war for America to damage a domestic political opponent *should* be beyond the pale...


9 posted on 01/28/2005 8:47:10 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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To: Archangelsk
Fred has the creds

Which is really meaningless if he writes what he does. No, people do not have some right to publicly follow every step of a battle. That is self-defeating. The enemy can read the same accounts and change his plans accordingly. There is no reasonable need even to know, beforehand, the general's operational plan, for just the same reason, and precisely because so much effort goes in to diversion and disinformation in order to help the plan succeed and reduce our own casualties.

Reporters don't turn against war because they are there. They turn against whatever Republicans do, but not Democrats. That's literally the history of the last decade and a half. And you can't ignore that history, that fact, and that bias which eats at the heart of nation to the extent that citizens take the talking heads seriously and consider their words to be even somewhat reliable, when it all might be a complete and utter work of fiction, or at least a gross misrepresentation of the situation, intended only to further the reporter's own partisan agenda.

14 posted on 01/28/2005 10:16:24 PM PST by sevry
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