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To: bvw
Much of science is inference of stuff you can not see or test directly. We infer from observations, for example using probability analysis.

But when you don't understand what you are talking about, your "indirect" testing is worthless. And when there is a non-zero chance of something naturally occurring, that result does not require a supernatural explanation, by definition.

But what I find interesting is that you can not only "infer" the existence of this God, but his identity as well. Or else why the coy "G-d" stuff. Does Hercules care if you deface his name? Would Shiva give a damn if his name were erased? Or is it only Yahweh who can make a coin land on heads fifty times. So, you clearly believe that you know about not only God's existence, but his nature, as well. Tell me, exactly what is the scientific basis for your ideas about the nature and identity of God?

You have a "belief" that G-d is impossible to even logically infer from observation. That belief has NO support.

I believe that you cannot prove God's existence. You can infer whatever you want. That doesn't necessarily mean that it is correct, though.

1,879 posted on 02/07/2005 2:12:13 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash
Kurt Godel. Any logical system up to the level of specificity to make it worthwhile to use will have truths that are incapable of proof within it.

Of course, that misses a predicate. The predicate is "Why bother?" -- to state in its Eeyore form.

Why do people even care what is proved or not? Why bother?

The answer is we do care. And where does that sense of caring come from? What does man's very being infer?

1,880 posted on 02/07/2005 2:24:55 PM PST by bvw
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