Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative
This is the problem guys. You call our Bible and religion a lie.
Something that in six thousand you have been able to prove is so.
Then you want us to accept your own Darwin's Religion of Evolution which you haven't been able to prove in the last hundred years is right.
Yet when we ask that creationism to be fair be taught just along side of evolution in our schools you guys panic .
What are you afraid of? I see all kinds of evidence everyday of the result of ID including this computer I set at.
I have yet to see one thing that evolved from nothing to something to something else on it's own.
So if you guys want to prove to me that evolution is the ticket, pile up a bunch of scrap sheet metal, rubber and plastic in your yard and when it turns into a 1965 mustang convertible call me.
BTW if it turns out to be a Chevy pickup, just do what you normally do when evolution is in trouble.
Just tack on a few billion more years. I'll wait.
The more time I spend here, the more I think that exposing their lies is the best way to expose their agenda. Something is going on. Are these guys trolls for the YEC websites? I wouldn't think true Christians would lie? Or are they just that brainwashed ...
The Sun was created on day one and in Genesis 2 the animals were created AFTER Adam. You remember, to give comfort to him.
You don't understand that b/c you, a hoax supporter, post a list of papers that you like, prepared by other hoax supporters, it doesn't establish that it's evidence? Your claiming it's evidence means exactly - nothing. You and you ilk don't get to decide what constitutes proof. Do you imagine no one knows that "appeal to authority" is a logical fallacy?
Please cite where someone has posted that.
Have you ever seen a neutron? I doubt it.
I didn't say I hated JC. You are obviously a troll for the YEC website. No true Christian would bear such false witness.
i'm late to the gate on this thread, and skipped most of the middle, but
Science is theory. It is not fact. It is theory looking for fact. It really makes no pretense of final understanding. It is provisional in its pronouncements because it has been shown over and over again that the theory is wrong and needs to be fixed. This is the process of progress in Science. When a scientist postulates "A" he/she knows that it is unlikely that "A" is the final word on the subject. It is just another bit to add to string of information to ponder. When and if the final fact is found that would be the end of Science.
I welcome this debate and find it very interesting. Each of us must know that the last fact will not be found while we are alive to know it. Each of us must deal with this in our own way.
The bottom line is that the scientist and the non-scientist must ultimately defer to a Belief, which cannot be proved.
Since neither "A" nor "not A" can be proved, we should all discuss these issues with an understanding that it is also possible that the answer is not even in our alphabet yet. IMHO, it is likely that the TRUTH is completely out of the sphere of our knowledge, or even imagination.
Many religions address this problem by postulating God to be beyond our understanding. Science addresses this issue by saying that we don't know yet, but we are still working on it.
The stress between science and religion does not really come from the conception of Cosomological Origins, but from the application and extensions of those conceptions to the more mundane and human level of what do we eat, how do we conduct ourselves, who are our friends and so on.
My attitude is, I don't know. I will not know in this life. Oh well.
Seen a drawing of one.
Are you saying they evolve into something on their own? What to?
Seen a drawing of one. Are you saying they evolve into something on their own? What to?
But I suspect that WildTurkey's actual point had to do with the fact that you've never seen a neutron either, but they provably exist -- just like the evolutionary events you've never personally witnessed.
...and you think we care because...? Furthermore, while "scientism" may be a philosophical position, that doesn't make it a "religion", nor doe syour source say that it is.
Well, what beyond science is truth for you? Can natural occurrences alone account for everything?
Uh, I don't think you will be going to heaven with that pack of lies.
I bet you've seen drawings of space aliens, also.
And the creationists say we have foul mouths. It must be the It must be the Lord's day.
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