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Gun Control: Gun Banners Want NRA 'Out of San Francisco'
ChronWatch ^ | January 28, 2005 | Howard Nemerov

Posted on 01/28/2005 11:32:34 AM PST by neverdem

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Check out this bill in Florida. We can't post from that source.

Bill would broaden deadly force rights

1 posted on 01/28/2005 11:32:34 AM PST by neverdem
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BANG!

Check comment# 1

2 posted on 01/28/2005 11:34:58 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

No Guns ~ No Rights!


3 posted on 01/28/2005 11:36:17 AM PST by blackie
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To: neverdem

Any laws they try to pass should be challenged as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.


4 posted on 01/28/2005 11:37:03 AM PST by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: neverdem

Out of San Francisco? Ok, but exactly how do they plan to force them out?


5 posted on 01/28/2005 11:38:00 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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“SAN FRANCISCO HAS long been a leader for justice… Now, with 87 homicides so far this year – 56 of which involved handguns – it's time to continue this work for justice. We'll have that opportunity at the next election.” – San Francisco Bay Guardian editorial

That was the exhortation to justice which I inadvertantly edited out of the start of the column. Please accept my humble apology.

6 posted on 01/28/2005 11:39:38 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Bill Barnes of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Burke Strunsky of Ban Handgun Violence promote their thesis that banning guns in San Francisco will reduce homicide.

Show me ONE city, or town where this is the case, please.

Allow me to show you Kennesaw, GA.

7 posted on 01/28/2005 11:39:43 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: neverdem
Yet another demonstration of the incredible tolerance practiced by the Politicos of San Francisco - If your leanings are to the Far Left or Anti-Gun Rights.

Interesting the approach being followed in SF vs. that in Florida - Two opposite ends of the spectrum.

8 posted on 01/28/2005 11:39:50 AM PST by drt1
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To: neverdem

bang!


9 posted on 01/28/2005 11:42:28 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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To: Chaos_Axiom

Amen!


11 posted on 01/28/2005 11:49:39 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("Oh no, not Hans Brix!")
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To: neverdem
"Since the military was not using short-barreled shotguns at the time, the court decided “we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.”

Wrong wrong wrong!

What the Court actually said was that they didn't KNOW of any military use of short-barreled shotguns.

The exact wording is:
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument."

In point of fact, there have been numerous military uses of short-barreled "trench guns."

12 posted on 01/28/2005 11:53:53 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Chaos_Axiom

Thanks for posting that. It's good to see rational thought being expressed these days.


13 posted on 01/28/2005 11:54:40 AM PST by Renderofveils (8th Engineer Bn, 1 Cav. "Cannibals!")
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To: neverdem
"“The New England Journal of Medicine found that a handgun in the home makes it 43 times more likely that a friend, family member, or acquaintance will be killed than an intruder.” –– SF Bay Guardian editorial"

I can't believe people still trot out this tired, worn out, discredited statistic!

The Fallacy of “43 to 1” The all-time favorite statistic of the gun-prohibition lobby.

14 posted on 01/28/2005 11:54:44 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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of course not solving the real problem of gangs or such wouldn't even occur to them....without guns they will still kill each other for sure.....fix the problem idiots, not the side issue


15 posted on 01/28/2005 11:56:50 AM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: neverdem

About 4 years ago our grandson and his family lived 4 doors from a family newly arrived from Mexico. The father had been legally here working and saving money to buy his home and import his family. My Greatkids became chummy with their youngest child (about 9 years old) and on occasion I got to talk with the boy while waiting for the bus to pick the kids up for school. Asking about customs and holiday events, I learned that all boys in Mexico are taught by their fathers to use rifles and hand guns from about the age of 7. I asked the obvious question and was told, "Yes. My Dad takes me out in the farm areas almost every Saturday to shoot at targets. I'll get my own gun as a birthday present in 3 years."
OK. That was 4 years ago. I assume the kid got his present.
I taught high school locally for 30+ years, retiring in '92; I had some boys from Mexico (some legal families/some not...we weren't allowed to discriminate OR report). I KNOW those boys had access to guns, too. When the newspapers came up with stories about guns being brought into our schools by students, guns found in lockers, guns found in teen cars, I was surprised to find that my neighbors were surprised!
The Columbine High situation of '99 was a real eye-opener to some people.
The Mexican kids are taught at an early age that a weapon is their right of passage. Once this becomes known (through the fine art of teen bragging) to the kiddoes born and bred in this country, is it any wonder that some American kids feel they need weapons, too?





17 posted on 01/28/2005 11:57:20 AM PST by Grendel9
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yeah........by that logic, owning a car will do the same thing.........idiots


19 posted on 01/28/2005 11:58:38 AM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Grendel9

I was given a shotgun by my grandfather on my 12th birthday, as was my brother. He had also previously instilled in us a respect for firearms (as well as how to use them) that goes hand in hand with respect for life. Not just human life. The second part of that is the major point, and the first becomes a non-issue when respect is part of the gun bearer's life.


20 posted on 01/28/2005 12:04:08 PM PST by Renderofveils (8th Engineer Bn, 1 Cav. "Cannibals!")
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