I think it is amazing that in such ancient times these rules were given to help create moral values. The guidelines have been used to create law for society ever since. It is sad they can not be given their due in our courtrooms. And personally on the question of whether God is a party pooper....I don't buy into the mantra of "If you grin you sin". Drinking a little here and there in moderation IMHO is fine. I have lots of fun playing my guitar and singing...fun is not a sin. However some sins can be fun!

I think it is amazing that in such ancient times these rules were given to help create moral values. The guidelines have been used to create law for society ever since. It is sad they can not be given their due in our courtrooms. And personally on the question of whether God is a party pooper....I don't buy into the mantra of "If you grin you sin". Drinking a little here and there in moderation IMHO is fine. I have lots of fun playing my guitar and singing...fun is not a sin. However some sins can be fun!

Is this a serious question or a joke? I'm not sure which approach to take when I respond. :-)

No thanks, Troll.

Actually, if one actually reads the Torah, one finds that God actually mandates partying on occassion (e.g. Sukkot). The fact that He doesn't want us to screw up our lives with drugs, extra-marital sex, the occult, etc., isn't evidence that He's a party-pooper, but that He is a wise and loving Father.

Read the whole article...there is more to it than the comic strip mentioned.

However some sins can be fun!

This approach towards sin is very utilitarian in its form and frustrating to no end. In one of my ethics classes back in college, my professor told us a story of this dog his neighbor owned and it would love to lick anti-freeze...whenever it dripped from the car or if he found it in the garage somewhere. This anecdote concluded with his assertion that a person cannot with any legitimacy claim that just because something is pleasurable that it is good to do. Sure, the dog got a kick out of the anti-freeze, but the stuff would kill him if his owner hadn't kept a close eye and kept pulling him away.

Would someone say God is a party pooper for not letting us shoot ourselves in the foot, no matter how fun we may think it is?

Kind of funny that some who admittedly didn't know of FR until 3 months ago has the chutzpah to refer to a new members as a troll.

What's up with kids these days?

Have you met people who have fun shooting themselves in the foot?

Shooting yourself in the foot is fun?

I think Moses'law, make that God's law, is good. It defines sin for us. Thank God for providing the law...If it were up to the liberals we'd all be dead by now!

HMMMM.... Six threads posted since yesterday and no responses on any thread. Sure looks like troll activity to me. Every article from is from JewishWorldReview.com

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Kind of funny that some who admittedly didn't know of FR until 3 months ago has the chutzpah to refer to a new members as a troll. What's up with kids these days?

You have a point, and, since I also didn't read the article before posting that comment, as I should have, I'll apologize to the poster, and wait to see how this plays out.

I've read the article now, and agree that it's not what the title of the posting made me think. There have been a flood of "interesting posters" on this morning, and I overreacted. *standing down*

Jesus and Moses were in heaven, fishing from a rowboat. While fishing, they began to reminisce about the miracles they had performed when they were on earth. Just to see if they still had the knack, they each decided to perform one of their old miracles.

Moses stood up, raised his arms and the water parted, allowing the boat to gently sink to the bottom of the pond. He then lowered his arms and the water slowly rose again, bringing the boat with it.

Jesus said, "Pretty good, Mo. Now I'll try." He stepped out of the boat and began walking across the pond. After about two steps, he began to sink. Luckily, Moses was able to grab him and haul him back into the boat before he went under.

"Wow!" Moses exclaimed. "What do you suppose happened to you?"

"Aw, Mo," Jesus replied, "I should have known better than to try that one. The last time I did that, I didn't have these holes in my feet."

George W. Bush, in an airport lobby, noticed a man in a long flowing white robe with a long flowing white beard and flowing white hair. The man had a staff in one hand and some stone tablets under the other arm.

George W. approached the man and inquired, "Aren't you Moses?"

The man ignored George W. and stared at the ceiling.

George W. positioned himself more directly in the man's view and asked again, "Aren't you Moses?"

The man continued to peruse the ceiling.

George W. tugged at the man's sleeve and asked once again, "Aren't you Moses?"

The man finally responded in an irritated voice, "Yes I am."

George W. asked him why he was so uppity and the man replied, "The last time I spoke to a Bush I had to spend forty years in the desert!"

Moses At The Pool!

One day Jesus, Moses, and an old man were playing golf. They were at the 3rd hole. Moses steps up and hits the ball. The ball goes into the water. Moses spread the water and hit the ball into the hole. "Hole in 2" he yells, "Beat that, Jesus." Jesus stepped up and hit the ball onto a lilly pad. He walked out onto the water and hit the ball into the hole. "Not bad if I say so myself" says Jesus. "Beat that, old man." The old man steps up and hits the ball, Just as the ball is about to hit the water, a turtle pops up and the ball bounces off of his back, flying onto the green where a jack rabbit runs by and knocks the ball into the hole. "A hole in one" says the old man. "I won." Moses turned to Jesus and said "I hate it when your dad plays."

I don't buy into the mantra of "If you grin you sin". Drinking a little here and there in moderation IMHO is fine.

Jesus turned water into wine. And then drank it. Joy to the world, my friend.

So. I see no problem with the articles posted. They provoke discussion. They are even along a conservative line.

Some people find something to post on FR, and then do not stay to respond. Maybe he/she has a life?

I have been in heated discussions with posters, who did not post the original article, and had them not respond to a question posed. Maybe he/she feels that the articles help others, and there is no need to 'defend' them.

Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it is his portion.

Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.

Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 KJV