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"Starving" Education on the 'All You Can Eat' Plan (California)
McClintock Website ^ | January 25 | Tom McClintock

Posted on 01/27/2005 9:34:25 PM PST by AVNevis

State schools superintendent Jack O'Connell this week called for massive tax increases for the public school bureaucracy while issuing a blunt warning to Gov. Schwarzenegger: "Stop starving our schools." Here's how the governor is "starving our schools." According to the Legislative Analyst's Office, the governor's proposed budget provides $9,508 for every pupil in the California public schools. That's $206 per pupil more than last year. That means every classroom of 30 students will receive $6,180 more next year than it did this year - or a total of $285,240 per classroom.

In fact, over the past ten years, total funding for K-12 education has grown 88.4 percent from $32.058 billion in 1995-96 to $60.401 billion as proposed next year. Meanwhile, per pupil funding has grown 59.2 percent from $5,972 in 1995-96 to $9,508. In the same period, the federal CPI has grown 24 percent and the state CPI has grown 25 percent.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; calbudget; caleducation; california; mcclintock
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To: AVNevis
That's $206 per pupil more than last year. That means every classroom of 30 students will receive $6,180 more next year than it did this year - or a total of $285,240 per classroom.

McClintock is simply great. He cuts right to the heart of Democrat/liberal/scumbag hypocrisy.

21 posted on 01/27/2005 10:15:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Torie
So, on a typical "modest" home of 600k, the taxes start at $6,600 per annum, and then increase?

With Homestead excemption here in Florida, the tax rate is capped for the entire time that you own.

22 posted on 01/27/2005 10:24:17 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Awful isn't it (not)? But then in Westchester County, New York the property tax rate is about 2.5% and reassessed to market value regularly, rather than some small constant percentage. And many of the homes go for maybe two million or so. So that is an annual property tax of about 50K per year. And then there is the New York income tax. Oh dear.


23 posted on 01/27/2005 10:28:08 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
I honestly do not see how anyone that is not a professional can get ahead in such places. (Bastions of Socialist/Democratic policies?)

Come to think of it, it was not until I left Pennsylvania that I began to do quite well, and was able to save enough to start 3 businesses and buy various properties.
24 posted on 01/27/2005 10:34:48 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: AVNevis

McClintock ping list? Sure, count me in if you're going to make one. And thanks.


25 posted on 01/27/2005 10:57:23 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: AVNevis

Is there any state education association that says they are getting enough money for schools? I don't believe there is. All we ever hear is that it is not enough. They never provide a number for what is enough but always claim that whatever they are getting is not enough. Low test scores are a plus for the school system because they can claim a need for more money to raise scores. Hasn't changed scores yet but that doesn't stop the money grubbers for asking for more.


26 posted on 01/27/2005 11:41:14 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Torie

NY city Dept. of Education has more administrators than the entire school system of France.


27 posted on 01/28/2005 12:43:10 AM PST by ijcr (2002)
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To: AVNevis
We're spending more on education than ever before and in the world of Sacspeak, a phantom cut is equated with a real spending cut! We should just hand over our wallets and starve. "Its all for the chilrun."

Denny Crane: "I want two things. First God and then Fox News."

28 posted on 01/28/2005 12:48:47 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: AVNevis

This is what I've been saying all along. Administrative overhead costs are out of control in the Cal public schools. Bump for later complete read.


29 posted on 01/28/2005 12:52:28 AM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry is a liar and rotten to the core)
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To: AVNevis
Meanwhile, per pupil funding has grown 59.2 percent from $5,972 in 1995-96 to $9,508

At the same time my kids are receiving a better education with all the supplies they need at a Christian school for for $3500 a year. Their schools' test scores average 10 points above neighboring Elk Grove School District's scores.

30 posted on 01/28/2005 7:53:34 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: AVNevis

That's only state funding. By the time you throw in lottery money, special programs for disabled learners, federal funds, and local contributions, total K-12 spending adds up to over $12,000 per child.


31 posted on 01/28/2005 8:35:21 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Torie
On Long Island, it is more like 14K per pupil. California has it cheap.

By the time you add up ALL sources of public school funding in California the total climbs to over $12,000 per kid.

32 posted on 01/28/2005 8:37:53 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: AVNevis
total funding for K-12 education has grown ... to $60.401 billion as proposed next year

With a budget just over $100 Billion, K-12 education comprises about 60%, and that doesn't even include college-university funding. That seems too high.


$9,508 for every pupil in the California public schools

If we could reduce the number of illegal aliens in CA who fail to pay tuition* for the "free" education, we could save so much money.
* very few pupils pay tuition in CA public schools, but a finite number of nonresidents pay regularly

33 posted on 01/28/2005 6:04:33 PM PST by heleny
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To: bill1952

In Massachusetts, most of the native-born non-professionals either move an hour+ away from the city and commute or move to Florida/Georgia/Texas/Arizona where they have some hope of buying a home. They're replaced by immigrants who are willing to share their housing with more people so they can afford to stay. As economies go, it's not healthy.

I'm not sure I blame socialism. Our taxes are pretty low (state+local taxes as a share of income are lower here than in NC or GA). The problem is that our economy does too well and there's not enough "Boston-area living" available to come close to meeting the demand.


34 posted on 01/31/2005 6:16:47 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: bill1952

Are you talking about a Christian school or a secular school? Religious schools have alternative sources of funding that lower costs for parents. It can be supplied by the church or paid for by teachers who've taken a vow of poverty.


35 posted on 01/31/2005 6:18:06 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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