[oceanview]

I'm voting for the ticket no matter what. our party stands for nothing if it allows Hillary to walk into the oval office because we litmus test away our best candidates. I look at it this way, a "pro-choice" republican president really isn't going to do much to advance that agenda in office - what we will likely get is the status quo, whatever we had the day he took office. can we same the same about Hillary? no way. I'll take 4 or 8 years of the status quo over Hillary any day.

[mountainfolk]

Makes sense to me. However, I doubt that Rudy can do anything to make himself electable, his personal life history is too messy. McCain will be too old tho that won't be admitted. Since the democrats have floated heart bypass Bill Clinton as a rerun, I would say Cheney shouldn't be ruled out for heart reasons either. A Jeb Bush-Condi Rice ticket sounds good to me, tho I have no idea whether they are compatible and could work together as Condi now does with the Pres. No matter who the Republican candidates are, if something isn't done at the national level about voter fraud, this whole discussion could be academic.