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Campus protests visit by CU prof
denverpost ^ | 1/27/05

Posted on 01/27/2005 3:10:44 PM PST by swilhelm73

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1 posted on 01/27/2005 3:10:45 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

"Hamilton, like any institution committed to the free exchange of ideas"

As long as they are Socialist ones.


2 posted on 01/27/2005 3:16:41 PM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: swilhelm73

There is a free flow of ideas on campuses... between status quo socialist ideas and more radical socialist ideas


3 posted on 01/27/2005 3:17:50 PM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: swilhelm73

Good f'ing grief. I just don't get it, how does this guy keep his job? How does this type of "essay" contribute anything to education?

They should put this as*hole in a room full of New York cops/firefighters and let him read it.


4 posted on 01/27/2005 3:21:48 PM PST by Tulane
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To: swilhelm73

"You don't have to agree with them in order to learn from them."

Oooooh Jessica! The old "Character doesn't count" routine. I wonder if she'd have any problem learning from a KKK grand poobah.


5 posted on 01/27/2005 3:26:01 PM PST by winner3000
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To: swilhelm73

If he can defend his ideas he should be willing to let members of the audience come armed.


6 posted on 01/27/2005 3:29:50 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent planning and zoning either, but they did discover trigonometry)
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To: muawiyah

Now that is the best idea I've heard all day.


7 posted on 01/27/2005 3:31:35 PM PST by Tulane
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To: swilhelm73

>>>> Clinton, N.Y. <<<<

Figures

Is a punch in the nose ok yet?


8 posted on 01/27/2005 3:34:51 PM PST by quietolong
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To: swilhelm73
""True enough, they were civilians of a sort," he wrote. "But innocent? Gimme a break.""

Words fail me.

Of course, had he been killed, he would have been an innocent civilian. But then, he wouldn't be here to argue the point.

What a shame.
9 posted on 01/27/2005 3:39:00 PM PST by green pastures
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To: swilhelm73

As stupid as this guy apparently is, what educational benefit is expected from him showing up on campus? I mean, I believe in free speech, but I wouldn't want to pay someone to teach my kids idiocy.


10 posted on 01/27/2005 3:59:30 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: swilhelm73
I was thinking, "This guy sounds like a major-league d-ckhead." Then I saw his picture (below) and confirmed that not only IS he a d-ckhead, but he looks like a d-ckhead, too.

He's an embarrassment to the good name Churchill.

A good Freeping might be in order. Here's his contact information:

Ward L Churchill

Ethnic Studies

University of Colorado at Boulder

339 UCB

Boulder, CO 80309-0339

Ward.Churchill@Colorado.EDU

Office: 303-492-8852

11 posted on 01/27/2005 4:19:11 PM PST by tom h
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He's an embarrassment to the good name Churchill.

That was my thought too. I have so much respect for Winston Churchill as a historical figure (personally, I think he was the greatest political leader of the 20th Century), just the name Churchill attached to a quote will make me stop and take notice. Too bad this piece of human trash sullies that great name by his mere existence. Maybe he should stand before a group of victims families when call them "little Eichmanns". But we all know that coward will only spout such garbage from the safety of a liberal college campus.


12 posted on 01/27/2005 4:44:09 PM PST by rbg81
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To: tom h

This doofas is essentially a walking Saturday Night Live skit. Thanks for posting the pictures. They really made a world of difference when I could put a face to his loony words. He's SOOOOOO serious! The best thing to do with a leftist kook like this is to give him maximum media exposure. I even hope he gets on television. Yeah dude, keep "helping" your cause. BUHWAHAHA!!


13 posted on 01/27/2005 5:14:51 PM PST by SIDENET
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To: Betaille

"the free exchange of ideas"

it's more like:

a free exchange of emotions

on university campi today

they gave up thinking a long time ago.


14 posted on 01/27/2005 5:19:19 PM PST by ken21
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To: everyone

As a 2004 Hamilton alum I can say that Hamilton is actually a conservative campus. The students are fairly apathetic but there are several conservative professors who are the ones causing the stink about Churchill coming to campus. So to joke about "socialist ideas" being the accepted norm on college camuses in general is one thing, but Hamilton is conservative and "socialist ideas" are far from the accepted norm at Hamilton.

Thats said, my understanding is that over the past 20 years Churchill has spoke at over 200 colleges and universities and there has never been any controversy like this over his invitation to speak. The reason you are even talking about this now and know about it is only because the conservative professors at Hamilton have alterted the AP to the controversy that they themselves started. The conservative professors at Hamilton started this controversy by posting around the campus a flier they drafted which equates Churchill to a terrorist. In response, Jessica posted her fliers around campus stating that "You don't have to agree with them to learn from them." That is all that happened at Hamilton. There were no "protests" to Churchill coming to campus as the name of the article would suggest. There were just some fliers.

My point is that not all colleges are liberal and that even though Hamilton is conservative this "controversy" is really not that big of a deal in light of Churchill's track record of previous speaking engagements. The truth is that, while Hamilton is conservative, the school does a good job of bringing both liberal and conservative speakers to campus. During my time at Hamilton the speakers who visited included liberal former president Bill Clinton, conservative former NYC mayor Rudy Guliani, conservative radical Walter Williams, and conservative radical David Horowitz. Churchill and other liberal speakers just balance things out. What bothers Jessica, I think, is that Walter Williams and David Horowitz are just as conservative as Churchill is liberal (if that even make sense) but there was little or no controversy over their arrival on campus. We can learn from every speaker, liberal or conservative, no matter how radical they are.


15 posted on 01/30/2005 2:58:38 PM PST by eb35 (this is over hyped)
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To: swilhelm73
http://www.hamilton.edu/Levitt/speakers_previous.html

They have a token conservative (even David Horowitz once) almost every year. Seriously, that's better than most.

16 posted on 01/30/2005 3:09:08 PM PST by Stultis
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To: eb35
Walter Williams and David Horowitz are just as conservative as Churchill is liberal

No they aren't. Williams and Horowitz are actually much, indeed infinitely, more liberal. They at least are liberals in some (classical) sense of the term. Churchill doesn't appear to be liberal in any sense. He's a leftist-extremist.

17 posted on 01/30/2005 3:16:25 PM PST by Stultis
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Here's the section of this idiot's screed that contains the comments discussed above (although you could almost cut and past randomly to find something deeply idiotic and disgusting):
 A good case could be made that the war in which they were combatants has been waged more-or-less continuously by the "Christian West" – now proudly emblematized by the United States – against the "Islamic East" since the time of the First Crusade, about 1,000 years ago. More recently, one could argue that the war began when Lyndon Johnson first lent significant support to Israel's dispossession/displacement of Palestinians during the 1960s, or when George the Elder ordered "Desert Shield" in 1990, or at any of several points in between. Any way you slice it, however, if what the combat teams did to the WTC and the Pentagon can be understood as acts of war – and they can – then the same is true of every US "overflight' of Iraqi territory since day one. The first acts of war during the current millennium thus occurred on its very first day, and were carried out by U.S. aviators acting under orders from their then-commander-in-chief, Bill Clinton. The most that can honestly be said of those involved on September 11 is that they finally responded in kind to some of what this country has dispensed to their people as a matter of course.
 
 That they waited so long to do so is, notwithstanding the 1993 action at the WTC, more than anything a testament to their patience and restraint.
 
 They did not license themselves to "target innocent civilians."
 
 There is simply no argument to be made that the Pentagon personnel killed on September 11 fill that bill. The building and those inside comprised military targets, pure and simple. As to those in the World Trade Center . . .
 
 Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire – the "mighty engine of profit" to which the military dimension of U.S. policy has always been enslaved – and they did so both willingly and knowingly. Recourse to "ignorance" – a derivative, after all, of the word "ignore" – counts as less than an excuse among this relatively well-educated elite. To the extent that any of them were unaware of the costs and consequences to others of what they were involved in – and in many cases excelling at – it was because of their absolute refusal to see. More likely, it was because they were too busy braying, incessantly and self-importantly, into their cell phones, arranging power lunches and stock transactions, each of which translated, conveniently out of sight, mind and smelling distance, into the starved and rotting flesh of infants. If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it.

Full text here.

18 posted on 01/30/2005 3:28:09 PM PST by Stultis
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To: eb35; nicollo
Hello, fellow Hamiltonian, and welcome to FR.

Glad you signed up today to push out the usual Womyn's Center line ("students...apathetic...Hamilton...conservative...can learn from...liberal...radical").

And, no, Ward Churchill isn't the same as Rudy Giuliani or an african-american guest commentator from the PBS Nightly Business Report.

Class of '88

19 posted on 01/30/2005 3:39:18 PM PST by hedgie
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What bothers Jessica, I think, is that Walter Williams and David Horowitz are just as conservative as Churchill is liberal (if that even make sense) but there was little or no controversy over their arrival on campus.

I'll have to disagree. To mirror this buffoon, Williams/Horowitz would have to be arguing something along the lines of the people at OKC deserved what they got at Tim McVeigh's hands...
20 posted on 01/30/2005 5:15:03 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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