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To: LibertarianInExile
You're the one who's selling the faux Shroud. You've exposed yourself.

Wrong! I am not selling any idea, merely stating that the possibility exists that the shroud indeed could be the burial cloth of Jesus.

You continue to ridicule the shroud, calling it a hanky, and a fake. That bothers me greatly as you act so flippant about this subject. Certainly you must know that the dead at that time were annointed with oils, wrapped in a shroud, and laid in the tomb. How can it be so hard for you to think that the Shroud might actually exist?

You keep citing that there is no definitive proof, or biblical record of its authenticity, yet isn't that what faith is all about? To believe that something could exist in the absence of scientific fact?

Although you may not agree that it is the shroud, that certainly is your right, but to ridicule the fact that it could exist, or to put others down for their beliefs seems a bit un-Christian, don't you think?

God Bless...

242 posted on 01/27/2005 8:48:36 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Northern Yankee

You keep implying I don't think a cloth that wiped Jesus's face could exist.

I don't have issues with that. All kinds of cloth could exist. Jesus's diapers could exist. It's entirely possible.

I have concerns that you want this particular shroud to be it. It's been proven it can't be. It's too young. You say you aren't selling it, but you refuse to face that THIS PARTICULAR SHROUD CANNOT BE THE CLOTH THAT TOUCHED CHRIST. The events of the New Testament took place hundreds of years before this cloth ever popped out of a loom.

Faith isn't about belief in the face of facts. Faith is about belief in the face of an unknowable possibility. You can't know God without faith. You can know if something is old enough to have been around when Jesus was, and this piece of cloth is not it.

It's interesting you would drag in the notion that it's un-Christian to tell people they're not listening to reality, that reality has changed because of new discoveries. Jesus and his disciples had problems with that, too. So did Galileo. Carbon dating may be something you don't understand and you really, really want to believe this particular cloth is the real thing, but it doesn't make it so.


248 posted on 01/27/2005 10:03:45 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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