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To: Conservative til I die

I'm sorry, I think the Church already has provided you folks that opportunity to refute doubters, and unfortunately for your little theory, the Shroud was carbon-dated far after Christ's death. If you want to tell me that because this schmuck has posited a possible way around the test results, the Shroud is now Christ's wipey, I have proof for you that the Earth is flat. See, it's possible that all the scientific measurements saying the Earth is round were thrown off by threats from the Illuminati. I have a crackpot theory, so PRESTO!, now the Earth is flat again in the face of all scientific evidence!

Please provide your irrefutable proof that your eyesight isn't blocked by your colon right here---->


235 posted on 01/27/2005 7:28:53 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: LibertarianInExile
I'm sorry, I think the Church already has provided you folks that opportunity to refute doubters

YOu cannot refute doubters if it hasn't been proven as authentic. No one is saying that the Shroud has been scientifically proven to be the burial wrap of Christ. I don't even think you *can* prove it scientifically. All you can do is provide a preponderance of evidence and let other people make up their minds.

and unfortunately for your little theory, the Shroud was carbon-dated far after Christ's death.

The evidence that the carbon dating was flawed has been known for years. I'm not even really sure many scientists even deny that the carbon dating was flawed anymore. The Shroud is an object that has been through fires, handled by thosuands of people throughout the centuries, had newer patches sewn on to it. Its not some fossil bone sitting undisturbed in the dirt for 3,000,000 years.

Let's face it, my friend. The scientific evidence on hand comes closer to proving the Shroud's authenticity than it does disprove it. All you have is flawed carbon dating. That's ALL you have to refute the idea that the Shroud *could* be real.

We have a Shroud that is increasingly looking like it came from the 1st Century Middle East (the new carbon dating, materials found on the Shroud, , the material of the Shroud itself, and the style of stitching), the fact that no one can explain how it was made, and the fact that two other relics of the Catholic Church associated with Christ (one of which we know dates to the 1st Century) have a matching AB blood type on them, just like the Shroud. And this is centuries before anyone began typing blood.

I have a crackpot theory, so PRESTO!, now the Earth is flat again in the face of all scientific evidence! Wrongo. You simply cannot refute the evidence that the Earth is round. The sole evidence used against the Shroud has been found to at least be flawed. You seem awfully trusting in science to go on flawed data. If you respect science, then I would expect you'd call for sound testing to be used. BTW, what's with your disrespect towards others by calling the Shroud a wipey or a hanky? Millions of people cherish the Shroud and think it very important. Why crap on them?
322 posted on 01/29/2005 11:40:47 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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