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To: LibertarianInExile; Aquinasfan; Ditter; dangus
Actually... Faith can be put into the Shroud. It's not the proof that you need to believe, but the faith that it could be...

I think that most who believe in the shroud don't use it as their bases of belief, but that in the fact that they do have a deep belief in God which allows the possibility for the shroud to exist in the first place.

In other words I don't believe in God because of the Shroud, but I believe that the Shroud could be because of God.

If we dismiss it and say it isn't possible, aren't we putting limitations on God?

Blessings to you.

Jay

209 posted on 01/27/2005 3:48:34 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Northern Yankee
Look, I don't have a problem believing that Jesus wiped his face or that there could exist A shroud. This just ain't it. And whoever is writing these books is taking people's money. And whoever thinks this is the shroud is being suckered. It's not faith if you're going against proof. It's willful ignorance of the facts.

And as to your final argument, "If we dismiss it and say it isn't possible, aren't we putting limitations on God?" that's just silly. You're telling me I better believe in anything, because with God, all things are possible? I don't believe in pigs that fly or poop that smells like daffodils, either. I don't see a lot of outcry for me to believe in that fantastic stuff because I can't limit God. If God was going to be peeved that I don't buy the shroud b.s., I'm sure He'd have provided more scientific backup and biblical guidance to make me believe in a holy hanky. He didn't. It's a fraud.

214 posted on 01/27/2005 4:19:14 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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