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To: maestro
There NEVER was a time when Jesus-the SON was NOT!
We're almost there. There never was a time when the Son was not, because the Son is eternally begotten. There was a time when Jesus was not, because the Son's human nature was temporally begotten.

Who is saying, I AM the first and the last? The person is saying it, not the nature. That person is the eternally begotten Son of God. That's his name: The Word. The Son. From the incarnation forward, the person was the same -- the eternally begotten Son of God -- but he now had two natures, and two names: The Word -- by virtue of his divine nature -- and Jesus -- by virtue of his human nature. Jesus and the Word are numerically identically: One person, two natures.

Think of Samuel Clemens and Mark Twain. They're numerically identical -- i.e., they're the same person -- but he has two names. Samuel Clemens existed from the moment of his conception; however, Mark Twain didn't exist until some time later.

120 posted on 01/27/2005 10:35:04 AM PST by eastsider
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To: eastsider
Wrong!

Truth is,.....There NEVER was a time when Jesus-the SON was NOT!

:-)

121 posted on 01/27/2005 10:41:06 AM PST by maestro
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To: eastsider

No human nature, no Jesus.


124 posted on 01/27/2005 10:46:41 AM PST by eastsider
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