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To: John Lenin
It's th arrogance of MAC people that offends me. The call me stupid because I have a better, faster machine for half the cost.

Arrogance does not belong only to MAC people. It's on both sides of the fence. Back in the early 1980's, I believe 1985, I tried to convince my supervisor of the merits of Apple's Macintosh mouse GUI. Our office had standardized on Intel PC's, with the Microsoft DOS text-based system. We were both IT engineers. I even dragged him to Macintosh computer shows for a look-see at the GUI interfaces. He was adamant that the use of a mouse was a fad that would pass quickly, that Apple was wrong in pursuing a GUI interface and that "I promise you that you'll never ever see a mouse used on an Intal PC platform!". I had the last laugh a few years later.

Back in the late 1970's, I belonged to the San Francisco Apple Core computer club, along with Andy Hertzfeld. He is a genius, but is modest and not arrogant. He truly wanted to share information and for everyone to have a better computer. One time I was talking about interfacing an electronic typewriter to my Apple II (in the early days, we built our interfaces). Andy sketched a diagram for me, on a matchbook cover, of a serial interface to the game-port that would cost under 2 bucks.

134 posted on 01/26/2005 7:39:01 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

You know whose REALLY got to be kicking themselves is Xerox! They did a lot of the R&D on GUIs in the 70's. (I even remember seeing their TV ads about GUIs on the evening news) And they ended up passing on the technology 'cause they didn't think there'd be a market for it!!!


137 posted on 01/26/2005 7:43:53 PM PST by golas1964 ("He tasks me... He tasks me, and I shall have him!")
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To: roadcat

>>"I promise you that you'll never ever see a mouse used on an Intal PC platform!". I had the last laugh a few years later.<<

Hmmm. It would have been easier to tell him that mice were used on PCs in 1985 than to wait a "few years."

I'll wait and see on this new Mac. I'm installing a FreeBSD server in my office to network several Windows machines. That is based on being able to buy/build a new $600 or so machine, including monitor, that will work reasonably well. Costs? $600 plus Windows XP (OEM) per workstation and utilizing vintage hardware for server activities.

I'm not sure I could do the same thing with a Mac setup, even using a good G4 box as the server and these new Macs as the workstation.


288 posted on 01/27/2005 2:37:18 PM PST by 1L
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