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Confederate group, blacks to clean up cemetery [NC]
Herald-Sun.com ^ | January 26, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/26/2005 11:08:23 AM PST by Constitution Day

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To: NJ Neocon
Ping for later.

Can't wait, Walt.

41 posted on 01/26/2005 4:10:47 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: NJ Neocon

"...concern for these people..."

Goes without saying.

"Do you think they want to be drawn into the culture wars?"

They already are, just not on a larger level. I deem that appropriate, to draw them in. By participating, they are part of the remedy.


42 posted on 01/26/2005 4:11:26 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: NCjim

...and Beaufort is in Carteret County and little Washington is in Beaufort County and Rockingham is in Richmond County and Eden is in Rockingham County and let's not confuse Mooresville with Morrisville and Eden with Edenton.

Yes, it's confusing alright.

BTW, I think this is a cool thing they're doing.


43 posted on 01/26/2005 4:13:49 PM PST by wimpycat (As God is my witness, I'll never be "outraged" again!)
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To: bourbon

I'm with you on this without even reading the link...that i know homeboy.

How is Rachel?


44 posted on 01/26/2005 4:22:17 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: NJ Neocon
Thanks. I think I'm starting to see you point more clearly.

Except for this: But here is the rub - trying to elevate this warming story into an "a-ha! See! See how NOT Racists we are! See the decendents of Slaves & Confederates holding hands!" is simply setting up the MSM to twist things to their liking.

I'm sorry. I just don't see how this plays into the MSM's hands.

I don't mind people noticing race or even commenting on it, just so long as they don't discriminate or attempt to justify racist beliefs.

If conservatives can't take notice of race in their thought and commentary, then how can they forthrightly address an issue which has riven the country since its founding. To put another gloss on my point, how can conservatives minister to blacks in this country if they can't discuss race or if they have to pretend that it doesn't exist? Is GW Bush violating the conservative code by pointing out that Social Security has a disparate impact on blacks? Would I violate the same code if I said that Asians are not assisted by the State of California's affirmative action policies, despite enduring a century of discrimination on the West Coast?

BTW, it's not that I disagree in principle with your statements. You're right: As a rule, conservatives ought to be less race-conscious (nay, less race-obsessed!) than liberals. I believe conservatives are the proper legatees of a color-blind ideal of justice, one which prizes equal treatment under the law and abhors unlawful discrimination. I just don't think that there is any need to take an ideal designed to secure justice in the legal realm so far that it limits our ability to articulate our positions or promote racial healing in society at large.

45 posted on 01/26/2005 4:25:47 PM PST by bourbon (works best when angry)
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To: stand watie
GOOD! there are THOUSANDS of cemeteries that NEED work.

free dixie,sw

That's what I was going to say! My family has an old cemetery (early 1800s) and a new cemetery. The old cemetery has field stones that are completely illegible. Not to mention the area has been overgrown with brush and trees. It's been a long time since it was cared for properly.

I'm still trying to convince the family the right thing to do would be to exhume the bodies in the old cemetery (about 20) try to identify them and then rebury in the new cemetery.

Course, the idea is going over like a lead brick so far.

46 posted on 01/26/2005 4:26:37 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Gas?)
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To: wardaddy
quite well, thank you.

We find out el sexo del nino muy pronto.

47 posted on 01/26/2005 4:28:23 PM PST by bourbon (works best when angry)
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To: bourbon
BTW, it's not that I disagree in principle with your statements. You're right: As a rule, conservatives ought to be less race-conscious (nay, less race-obsessed!) than liberals. I believe conservatives are the proper legatees of a color-blind ideal of justice, one which prizes equal treatment under the law and abhors unlawful discrimination. I just don't think that there is any need to take an ideal designed to secure justice in the legal realm so far that it limits our ability to articulate our positions or promote racial healing in society at large.

I would pretty much agree with all of that.

48 posted on 01/26/2005 4:33:44 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: bourbon

I was also wrong about my fears of this thread turning into something else, which it has not. My fears apear groundless at this point.


49 posted on 01/26/2005 4:36:22 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: Constitution Day

bttt


50 posted on 01/27/2005 12:00:20 AM PST by lainde
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To: yankeedame

What money? I was referring to "aspiring.hillbilly" and his asinine swipe at the Sons of Confederate Veterans.


51 posted on 01/27/2005 8:19:00 AM PST by gradient_salient
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