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Oscar Nominations announced
www.oscar.com ^ | 1/25/05

Posted on 01/25/2005 5:53:22 AM PST by Borges

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To: Happygal
LOL...I know.I just thought I'd flaunt my knowledge and love of G&S a bit. *GIGGLE*

And complain about Sondheim,while I was at it. LOL

441 posted on 01/25/2005 7:38:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

You finally got around to mentioning Magnolia. Finally. Tom Cruise should have got something for that performance. And I am not a Tom Cruise fan by any measure.

Diva's Husband


442 posted on 01/25/2005 7:41:30 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: nopardons
Please keep me apprised of how it goes and BREAK A LEG! :-)

I most certainly will!
BTW, you may get a kick out this, but our Society (considered one of the best amateur Societies in Ireland) can do a Sondheim piece like 'Sweeney Todd' this year - becuase of G&S.

Why? Because Gilbert and Sullivan bring bums on seats. We are a Society who do choral works well. (We won best chorus in Ireland last year). And people flock to G&S shows that we do. So we make extra money. We KNOW that we won't have the same audiences for Sondheim, but we made a few bob with Pirates and Pinafore, so we let our members try something new and different every couple of years, and hope that they can enjoy that new challenge. (We're an amateur group, but each show costs about €80,000, which is...what? $140,000...a LOT of money to find for amateurs) We are pulling out the stops for Sweeney Todd (Hence the 21 piece orchestra). No doubt we'll be doing G&S to pay for it for the next millenium *LOL*.

443 posted on 01/25/2005 7:45:24 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Borges; nopardons
Offenbach's 'Orpheus in the Underworld' is one of my operetta favourites.

''To arms, Olympian divinities..to arms...''

I have such fond memories of that piece.

The way I am talking you'd swear I was an auld woman. I'm only 32.

444 posted on 01/25/2005 7:48:38 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: nopardons

Hey, btw..have you read Mark Steyn's book 'Broadway Babies Say Goodnight'?

I got it for myself for Christmas. And (in true Steyn style) it's hilarious, but cuttingly accurate! Brilliant read.


445 posted on 01/25/2005 7:52:55 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Happygal
I understand completely!

Are you going to give YOEMEN a try? I know I won you over,the last we spoke on this. LOL

PRINCESS IDA would be anothwesr good one for your troop to do.It's still pretty up-to-date,dealing as it does,with feminists.And you'd enjoy the LADY BLANCHE role.:-)

WOW........now THAT's a lot of money! No wonder you can go all out with SWEENY TODD. I'm very impressed indeed.

446 posted on 01/25/2005 7:55:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Happygal
I like Offenbach too.

Oh come on,you aren't "old" at all! LOL

447 posted on 01/25/2005 7:56:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Happygal

No,haven't read it,but will now try to get a copy. Many thanks for the tip.


448 posted on 01/25/2005 7:57:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Fr. Johnny..(our musical director for many years) wants us to do Yoeman of the Guard. But when we picked Sweeney Todd this year decided to 'take a year out'. It's definitely on the cards for next year, if Fr. John is up to it!


Have to see how 'Todd' goes first *LOL*


449 posted on 01/25/2005 8:08:28 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Borges
The real loser this morning was ABC. The Academy left them with five films with little box office and seen by only a tiny fraction of the viewing audience. Low rated shows on UPN have been seen by more people than some of these films. *g*

You just know that ABC wanted to have Farenheit and POTC go head to head in the Best Picture and Director's categories. It would have done wonders for the ratings, no matter who won. If you can't have controversy, then you want some blockbusters on the nomination list. It's no coincidence that the TV ratings were much higher last year with ROTK and a few years ago with Titanic. ABC's best hope this year is to have Aviator do a sweep of it's early awards to keep people watching to see if it'll reach historic award totals.

On a side note, POTC's soundtrack is both wonderful by itself and a perfect fit to the film. It's one of the better soundtracks I've ever heard.

450 posted on 01/25/2005 8:28:11 PM PST by LenS
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To: LenS

Apart from 'Passion' the only fiction films that made money were children's films and those aimed at teenage boys. I wish more adults would take movies seriously.


451 posted on 01/25/2005 8:31:14 PM PST by Borges
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To: DCPatriot

Since the Oscars is all a marketing ploy and has nothing to do with artistic integrity, I am as much an expert as anyone in the academy.

Hollywood has made crap for years and they are losing market share to other sources. This year is no exception.


452 posted on 01/25/2005 8:48:14 PM PST by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Cruise was nominated for Best Supporting Actor in Magnolia. And he was indeed excellent, playing someone hiding his insecurities beneath public bravado (a type of character which P.T. Anderson seems to excell at depicting).


453 posted on 01/25/2005 9:38:57 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
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To: Happygal
Between Fr. Johnny and me,we'll get you to warble in YOEMEN yet! You'll have to do the age makeup,but trust me, as Dame Carruthers,rolling your Rs over "THE SCREW MAY TWIST AND THE RACK MAY TURN,AND MEN MAY BLEED AND MEN MAY BURN,O'ER LONDON TOWN AND ALL ITS HORDE,I KEEP MY SILENT WATCH AND WARD" is going to thrill you. Lovely melody too.:-)

Get through bloody TODD(take that in all ways possible) and then forward,me girl!

454 posted on 01/25/2005 10:38:01 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Why do you like TOPSY TURVY? Didn't all of those "horrible" operetta scenes take away from the movie?Why did you see the movie in the first place?

I happened upon the movie while flipping through the cable channels. I didn't actively seek it out. I have little interest in country music but enjoyed "Coal Miner's Daughter".

For me, the backstage theater drama and the personal stories were was the most interesting part of "Topsy Turvy". I got through the operetta scenes by going into a temporary fugue state.

455 posted on 01/26/2005 5:31:26 AM PST by CaptainK
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

I guess not all were stinkers in 99'. The Green Mile was ok and the 6th Sense should have won.


456 posted on 01/26/2005 7:01:48 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Don't be an a$$.


457 posted on 01/26/2005 7:02:38 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
One might ask the "Hollywood Insiders" on this thread the last time the highest grossing non scifi/childrens' film was not nominated for best picture? How about never?

I agree completely. As other posters have noted the movie was a work of art. It was also riveting and intense and draws the viewer in. It also becomes nearly to real by using the actual spoken language of the time. Has any movie with subtitals ever won for best picture? This one should. If Alexander can be looked at as an historic figure in a movie why can't the hollywood elite get over their religious bias and just look at this as true history to be objective? They can't out of fear at looking at a masterpiece of cinema and giving credit because they are trying to kill the message of the movie itself and just like the pre movie hype which helped to spread its fame, so also their post movie ractions and snubbing will further work against them with even more of a negative impact on hollywood and gain more popular support for this film and all those that starred, directed, produced, and participated in this movie. Studios and production companies are born this way and the audience decides who stays in business with their dollars at the box office.

458 posted on 01/26/2005 9:19:54 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: ruthles

RE: "Sorry, I stand corrected. we were discussing Schindler's List. I recently saw House of Sand and Fog and thought it was elegantly directed, and Kingsley is always enjoyable."


Yes, I greatly admire the House of Sand and Fog, and think that the film adaptation can stand proudly alongside the heartbreaking novel that it is based on (even the screenplays detours from the novel work out in their own way).

I see what you mean, when you were discussing Kingsley's role in Schindler's List. While he didn't earn an Oscar nomination that year (though he SHOULD have), I think that Kingsley might have won a Golden Globe for the performance (or was at least nominated), hence the slight confusion.

Just to inspire a few "What-If" thoughts, the nominees for Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars in 1993 were:

* Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive (the winner, probably because it was a leading role
* John Malkovich in In the Line of Fire
* Leonardo DiCaprio in What's Eating Gilbert Grape?
* Pete Posthelwaite in In the Name of The Father.
* Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List.


It was a good field that year, but Kingsley should have earned a nomination for his refined and subtle work in place of the pretty good but slightly overcooked DiCaprio.


459 posted on 01/26/2005 1:54:25 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Borges
Did you notice that both were directed by actor pretty boys turned director. The Academy has had a weakness for those.

It also has a weakness for pretty faces (or racks) turned serious actresses. Like Sally Field in "Norma Rae". Then Jennifer Connelly. Now Virginia Madsen, the drop dead gorgeous 80's blonde. There should be a seminar for how a beautiful girl can remain credible as an actress while making maximum use of what God gave her.

Maybe it is a matter of being personally popular in Hollywood. As Suzanne Sommers learned after she started copping attitude, pretty girls with nice boobs are a dime a dozen in Hollywood.

460 posted on 01/26/2005 1:56:19 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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