[hocndoc]

Coleus, you and I will have to agree to disagree on whether or not someone "kills" their children by IVF. Miscarriages happen. If there are 7 attempts, I would be willing to bet that there were never any "extre" embryos.

AntiGuv,

The "initiative" was to allow the researchers in the Ivory Towers to steal taxpayers' money rather than have to get their hands dirty finding financial backers - as most entrepeneurs or inovators in this country would have to do.

Who told these guys they have the right to OPM to buy their toys?

(I guess the same voters who voted for Barbara Boxer and John Kerry. )

[Coleus]

OK, the term, kill, may be too harsh.

did you read the article I posted about Tim and Mary, she produced 42 eggs, 15 were fertilized and became embryos, all were frozen, 6 thawed, 3 implanted, had twins so the one miscarried; the other 3 were what? thrown in the garbage. Now there are 9 embryos left over, frozen in the doctors office waiting for a life of what? And what happened to the other 3 nonviable embryos after they were thawed?