Posted on 01/24/2005 5:30:54 PM PST by nj26
Hillary might even pretend that she's not sure that she wants it and as if by magic, you'll see MSM dutifully reporting throngs of worried people begging her to run.
Hillary gets the nod, the only question is whether Obama or a military general gets the VEEP.
First off there are things you need to understand. Do the democrats want to risk a women front runner? Is the country ready for a women president.. reguardless of party.. That in itself is a hude wedge issue. With that said, all the dirty laundry that they are going to dig up now that she is running from president? Also if Hillary goes to the center is she going to split her base and open a huge gap for a more libral 3rd party candidate (i.e Like Ross did to Bush Sr taking 15% of the vote away from him). There are so many angles that the republicans can attack her on, she wouldnt get 40 electoral votes.
She can practically declare herself a conservative and the radical left will still follow and vote for her.
It is her attempt to fool a big block of voters.
She has already said and done too much to successfully run, and I do hope Rudy runs in 2006 to remove Clinton.
"Hillary might even pretend that she's not sure that she wants it and as if by magic, you'll see MSM dutifully reporting throngs of worried people begging her to run."
Don't give her any ideas. That's a good one. The last thing we need is a "Draft Hillary" campaign.
Look at the situation through the lens of a liberal.
1. Dems revere Hillary as a larger-than-life saint.
2. Dirty laundry? Senator Kerry had a swift boat full of dirty laundry, and what little got reported via MSM was countered and parried by some impressively expensive whoppers.
3. Split base? Not by much, because the lefties know the triangulation drill. It's a wink and a nod, eh? Hillary starts talking family values and God, and the Dems nudge each other and chuckle.
4. Third party candidate? You can bet that it's already in the works. It'll be a disenfranchised Republican (my early money is on McCain). A third party lunatic named Perot won the election for the Clintons in 92 and 96. This lesson is not lost on the Clintons for 08.
5. Throw into the mix a successful (so far) experiment in election theft from Washington state. True, palpable election fraud, with no MSM repercussions. This lesson is not lost in the clintons for 08.
Hillary will sweep the Dem primaries, on this you can rely.
Complacency is our worst enemy regarding this woman who still wants to separate us from our family doctors.
"Doesn't she know we're on to her and there is no way in H-E-Double Two Sticks that we would ever vote for her."
I felt the same way about her husband in 1996. We know how that ended. We can't underestimate the Clintons.
Unfortunately, many voters aren't very informed, and Bill and Hillary take advantage of that.
Quick Story.
Back in the 90's, during the Women's World Cup soccer tournament, there were a series of televised commercials in which actors (I think Travolta was one of them, if memory serves) implored something like "please Mr. President, please be at the women's championship game".
I wondered who would be insipid enough to fall for a promotion obviously produced by the Clintons and allies. Then, a (well educated) woman at work mentioned to me that she was hoping that President Clinton would go to the final match. It worked. Another Big Con by the Clintons to drum up suspense for their presence.
This same Hollywood tactic is sure to appear in Hillary's pre-campaign.
"NJ, actually, the Clintons already know the drill to build an artificial suspense."
I know, unfortunately.
They remind me of "Chicago" (the movie), when Richard Gere does his "razzle dazzle" song and dance. (I know I'm just asking for a Catherine Zeta-Jones picture here.) Unfortunately, in our modern culture, that nonsense works with many people.
And, for her artificial suspense in 2008, she'll probably be "too busy with her efforts to strengthen the military and secure the border" in the Senate. Or she won't want to "subject her family or our nation to the vicious smear campaign that the right is plotting."
It's so predictable to a careful observer, but it seems to work with the average voter.
That's interesting. Here I always thought that the Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade made abortion a Constitutional right. I sure am glad that a high quality newspaper like the New York Times is around to straighten things out for me.
At least one. Gennifer Flowers said that she aborted Bill's child in 1977, and he paid for it to be done.
1. Dems revere Hillary as a larger-than-life saint.
A: There I agree with you. no doubt.. however..... This is a new game on new turf.
2. Dirty laundry? Senator Kerry had a swift boat full of dirty laundry, and what little got reported via MSM was countered and parried by some impressively expensive whoppers.
A: She has been never been a candidate for president. Trust, me. if she is.. the MSM needs lots to talk about.. They will dig up tax forms from 1970 to make a headline.
3. Split base? Not by much, because the lefties know the triangulation drill. It's a wink and a nod, eh? Hillary starts talking family values and God, and the Dems nudge each other and chuckle.
A: Your standard middle of the road lefty will stick with Hillary, however.. The utlra left wing (a good 10%) will move to a 3rd party candidate. Look for Cobb (The greenparty) to make an strong appearance in 2008. A little payback for his help with the Tinfoil hat theory that Ohio was stolen. When Hillary tries to become more centerist - to be more electable.. she will lose some of the fringe base. This will be enough to defeat her.
4. Third party candidate? You can bet that it's already in the works. It'll be a disenfranchised Republican (my early money is on McCain). A third party lunatic named Perot won the election for the Clintons in 92 and 96. This lesson is not lost on the Clintons for 08.
A: Cobb and the greens will expect payback in 2008. They got so much support from the left wing wack jobs. If they take 1-2% of the vote in 2008 that is enough to swing the election in 2008. Hillary has no say. The pissed off democrats that think the election was stolen have already moved to the greens, because in there eyes.. they were the only people "on there side".
5. Throw into the mix a successful (so far) experiment in election theft from Washington state. True, palpable election fraud, with no MSM repercussions. This lesson is not lost in the clintons for 08.
A: I never did buy election theft. Yes they might have stole one county.. thus the election because of it, however.. When it comes to a general election.. Karl Rove isnt going anywhere. Im sure he will be there for us next time around. Would it not be a lovely sight to see.. The Karl Rove Machine vs the Clinton Machine... Ill bet Karl Rove ANYDAY....
Lets see how 2006 works out.. If we lose major ground.. worry.. if we dont.. we have 2008 in the bag.
Hillary doesn't realize how transparent she is. She thinks if she make a few speeches voters will believe she is a "centrist". Votes see through that phoniness. Ask Kerry.
oh yeah, i believe she's sincere. not.
Yes, Hillary is pandering, the NY Times campaign for her is moving forward with great hopes, and she *cannot* be trusted.
But I am frankly very gratified that the Dems are starting to publicly budge on their hard-line rhetoric. Hopefully, some day a real pro-lifer will emerge among the Dems.
-- Joe
She's oozing toward the center. 'I'm really a middle American at heart, I bake cookies every weekend and stand by my man.' The MSM will be over the moon the minute she announces.
She took speech lessons last spring. We're in for the full court press.
It will be harder, but the MSM will bury negative reactions to Hill, as they did for Kerry and Edwards...appearing before empty rooms, having to bus in and feed people posing as supporters. The demonstrations and signs, shouts and boos. Effective camera angles (shoot from the floor up...ten feet in front of Hill), and you'll never know she was talking to herself ala Carol Mostly Fraud announcing her candidacy.
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