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Commandos Get Duty on U.S. Soil(PDD-25 End of Posse Comitatus)
New York Times ^ | January 23, 2005 | ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 01/24/2005 11:57:43 AM PST by watchout

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To: fireforeffect

Exactly. PC in a nutshell prevents America's Armed Forces from enforcing local, state, and federal law on civilians. It gets a little bit more complicated, but roughly that is the guts of it.


21 posted on 01/24/2005 3:12:12 PM PST by X-USAF
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To: watchout
The Myth of Posse Comitatus

More info
22 posted on 01/24/2005 4:01:05 PM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry has now met with the enemy during war two times, in 1970 and again in 2005.)
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To: 45Auto
That evening Hoover sent duplicate orders via two officers to Macarthur forbidding him to cross the Anacostia to clear the Marchers' camp, but Macarthur flatly ignored the President's orders, saying...

Hmmm! So Korea/HST wasn't the first instance this prima donna said "Piss off!" to his Commander in Chief! No wonder Harry fired his ass.

23 posted on 01/24/2005 4:04:17 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (PhD, School of Hard Knocks)
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To: 45Auto

"The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which restricts military forces from performing domestic law enforcement duties, like policing, was enacted after the Civil War in response to the perceived misuse of federal troops who were policing in the South." That latter example...isn't.


24 posted on 01/24/2005 4:09:13 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: bahblahbah
This isn't the end of Posse Comitatus, but they're starting to chip away at it.

When every government agency, tax collectors, wildlife, enviornmental, etc. can dress in military garb, use military weapons including tanks and conduct a military operation Possee Comitatus is, for all practical purposes, dead. Apparently the only organizations not allowed to conduct military operations on US soil are the US armed forces.

25 posted on 01/24/2005 4:11:28 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: bahblahbah
They are also developing big brother type systems instead of finding pragmatic solutions to security.

Such as?

Remember, the National Guard isn't subject to Posse Comitatus laws when activated by a state governor. So, would you rather have national guardsmen doing this sort of work or SF types?

26 posted on 01/24/2005 4:13:08 PM PST by Terabitten (Live a life worthy of those who have gone before you.)
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To: thoughtomator

"This isn't a step towards a police state, it's a necessary defensive measure in wartime. In previous wars we did a lot more than that and we still didn't turn into a police state."

It is indeed a different world we live in at the beginning of 2005 as compared with the late 1800's. Frankly, I was more outraged at the useage of ATF agents in the 90's against Ruby Ridge and Waco then our military working with federal agents to sniff out potential WMD at the Capitol recently.


27 posted on 01/24/2005 4:15:00 PM PST by quant5
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To: fireforeffect
Now National Guard troops (State duty, title 32, not federal duty, title 10) can bring harm on persons who do not like US or are just scumbags (but only on weekends).

As a former National Guardsman, I think that last line is *hysterical* lol... :)

28 posted on 01/24/2005 4:15:19 PM PST by Terabitten (Live a life worthy of those who have gone before you.)
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To: IonImplantGuru

Ike, Patton and Macarthur were all involved in putting down the bonus march.
This is the reason I did not trust or like any of the three.


29 posted on 01/24/2005 4:16:02 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (So I talk to myself, at least I am talking to a mind that is my equal)
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To: quant5

The military has a far greater responsibilty to make sure a decapitation strike doesn't happen than to cater to every imaginable objection of reflexive objectors.


30 posted on 01/24/2005 4:21:04 PM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Were you aware that Texas has it's own militia...Texas State Guard. This isn't to be confused with the National Guard.

http://www.agd.state.tx.us/stateguard/default.asp?ldpage=about


31 posted on 01/24/2005 5:39:10 PM PST by politicalwit (Import poverty...hire an illegal today)
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To: fireforeffect
If memory serves me "posse comitatus" did not become law until the 1870's. This was in response to the use of U.S. troops to monitor elections in the south during reconstruction. The law only applies to the States, not the territories or federal districts (Washington City, Porto Rico, Guam, and the national parks). I say again: Washington City is a federal district.

In the late 1960s I was a Combat Engineer at Fort Belvoir. Our battalion was given riot duty for DC. We weren't used in DC but were used (my Company) at the Pentagon.

32 posted on 01/24/2005 6:10:31 PM PST by decimon
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To: 45Auto

The Infamous handling of the Bonus Army of 1932

I believe 1 veteran was burned to death.


33 posted on 01/24/2005 6:15:13 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: Beckwith

Bring in the U.N with them too


34 posted on 01/24/2005 7:08:02 PM PST by watchout
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To: thoughtomator

Patriot act


35 posted on 01/24/2005 7:09:17 PM PST by watchout
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To: watchout

Man, you must have been born yesterday if you are concerned about the civil liberties implications of the USA PATRIOT Act. Either that or you're just another liberal with no handle on reality. (But I repeat myself.)


36 posted on 01/24/2005 7:18:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: eno_

No Delta...just FBI.

You have Freepmail.


37 posted on 01/24/2005 7:26:06 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: HonestConservative
How about a little special ops on the border to protect citizens. If its good enough for Bush.......

BTTT!

38 posted on 01/24/2005 7:27:35 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: watchout

hey watchout, I gather from your recent posts you don't like the UN a whole lot. would that be a stretch to presume?


39 posted on 01/24/2005 7:32:08 PM PST by notigar
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To: thoughtomator

"The military has a far greater responsibilty to make sure a decapitation strike doesn't happen than to cater to every imaginable objection of reflexive objectors."

Exactly brother. We are on the same page.


40 posted on 01/25/2005 2:15:25 PM PST by quant5
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