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To: alessandrofiaschi

I'm no fan of Nader, but there's a certain truth in it. Some people really think government can help the poor and downtrodden, and at least you can credit them with pity for the poor and downtrodden.

A hundred years of welfare failure might suggest otherwise, but hope springs eternal.

On the other hand, by historical standards, most union workers are now rich--so much for the downtrodden workers. They strive to become richer, but the chief concern of Democrats now is to preserve and expands their rights to sexual perversion and abortion. It's hard to pretend that these are compassionate issues, although they certainly try very hard to make them so with their coathanger marches and gay pride parades.


6 posted on 01/24/2005 5:11:18 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

"at least you can credit them with pity for the poor and downtrodden."

Yeah, but....

"Not Yours To Give" -- Davy Crockett's Lesson in Government Benevolence
http://www.house.gov/paul/nytg.htm


19 posted on 01/24/2005 6:01:06 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Cicero
On the other hand, by historical standards, most union workers are now rich--so much for the downtrodden workers.

Which historical standards are you going by? How many "rich" union workers, by workers I mean workers not management working for a union company, do you know personally. I worked in a union shop for 35 years and never got rich. What I did get was health insurance, the right to not get fired because my eyes were not the right color and the right to turn down working on my days off if I chose not to. These were just some of the benefits for working Union. I did receive more pay than non-union workers working the same jobs in other places but that is hardly being rich.

I really think a lot of you have the wrong opinion about Unions and the people working in them. MOST union workers I personally know, do not vote the Union party, which is Democrat as we all know, but vote the party, usually republican, that they wish.

Instead of slamming Unions and others on here all the time you might want to see if any of them are, or have been, union and what they think. A union conservative is just as valuble as a non union conservative and far more valuble than a Democrat of any kind.

It is possible to make people switch sides when you blindly, like libs, chant rhetoric you have heard and come to believe over the years. Unions were necessary in this country and still are if people are to get decent pay and medical insurance through their employees instead of being stuck by corps like Wal-mart, who force their people to work overtime, in some states, without pay. Ok, enough but maybe you could be more careful and try to be less liberal with your biases.

27 posted on 01/24/2005 8:38:05 AM PST by calex59
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