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Sex change thrust couple into same-sex marriage debate (Barf alert)
The Telegraph of Nashua ^ | Jan. 23, 2005 | ERIK STETSON, The Associated Press

Posted on 01/23/2005 8:52:09 PM PST by Cracker72

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One of them is mentally ill, but it is still an opposite-sex relationship.
1 posted on 01/23/2005 8:52:10 PM PST by Cracker72
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Just Damn!

BOTH are mentally ill. The gender-confused one AND the woman that married it anyway.

The big shame is that there are CHILDREN involved in this mess - my only real objection to same-sex marriages in the first place.


2 posted on 01/23/2005 8:56:47 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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not one but both I think


3 posted on 01/23/2005 8:57:43 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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They're both mentally ill, but in Concord who would notice?


4 posted on 01/23/2005 8:59:22 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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Technically, one of them is still XX, and one is still XY.

Seems to me Michael doesn't exist anymore, and so Michael's marriage is over. Void. Non-existent.


5 posted on 01/23/2005 8:59:28 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: Cracker72; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

Modernism at work.


6 posted on 01/23/2005 9:01:30 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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A real life Pandora's Box.


7 posted on 01/23/2005 9:04:00 PM PST by umgud
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Michael is still a guy, just with his dick cut off. He must have know that he had this "issue" before he got married, so it was a dirty trick to get married.


8 posted on 01/23/2005 9:06:54 PM PST by MRMEAN
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Judi, left, and Mikayla Howden pose at their home in Concord on Dec. 12. The two married nealry four years ago before Mikayla, then Michael, underwent a sex change which transformed the couple into a legally married same-sex couple, despite a ban on such unions in 40 states, including New Hampshire. Photo by The Associated Press
Judi, left, and Mikayla Howden pose at their home in Concord on Dec. 12. The two married nealry four years ago before Mikayla, then Michael, underwent a sex change which transformed the couple into a legally married same-sex couple, despite a ban on such unions in 40 states, including New Hampshire.

 

Wait... The one on the right used to be the he?

Oy

9 posted on 01/23/2005 9:08:05 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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It's interesting to see this puff piece trying to get the sheeple to look at gay marriage from another perspective, but I think it will backfire. Many straight people know gay people, but I'd venture to say that most are not aware of any transsexuals, and consider them to be something way different from homosexuals.

How little self esteem would you have to have, to stay with a spouse who tries to match your "plumbing"? It seems like the ultimate betrayal of the fundamental rules of the relationship.

10 posted on 01/23/2005 9:09:13 PM PST by hunter112 (Total victory, both in the USA and the Middle East!)
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Technically, one of them is still XX, and one is still XY.

If one of them grafted a tail onto their bodies, would that make this an interspecial marriage?

Surgical impersonation does not change the essence of what God has made.

11 posted on 01/23/2005 9:09:38 PM PST by Huber (Conservatism - It's not just for breakfast anymore!)
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Can you imagine the child's chat with another child explaining the "old" family portrait? "This was my dad before he became my second mom." While the other child's eyes become wide with wonder while (hopefully) suppressing a giggle.

Unbelievable!
12 posted on 01/23/2005 9:14:05 PM PST by Chgogal
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I must pray hard for two who are so lost and ignorant of the damage they do to all the living.


13 posted on 01/23/2005 9:22:03 PM PST by Siobhan (Have mercy on us, O Lord; Have mercy on us.)
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The author of the article is lying. The state of florida has decided the issue. In divorce courts, they go by DNA. Born male is male no matter what the mutilation.

There is no controversy or loophole. If the birth certificate is changed then the law is clear. If the birth certificate is not changed then the law is clear. The DL does not change, the passport does not change.

Of course if they try and have it both ways then the law is also clear on perpetratig a fraud. In fact INS is very clear on these types of cases for perpetratig frauds.


14 posted on 01/23/2005 9:29:37 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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The problem is: How do you define a man and how do you define a woman?

Chromosome counts? Then, what about intersexes?

Women, with androgen insensitivity syndrome, are assigned as girls at birth and grow up believing they are female. At puberty, they are amenstrual and they are discovered to be XY. Are they to be told they are to now be considered men, and can only marry another woman? Or worse, being told they are an 'it'?

What about girls with Turner's syndrome, female but with only one X chromosome, instead of being XX?

What about children with severe genital abnormalities? There are a significant number that were mis-assigned at birth. Some were assigned as females, because it was easier to give them a female genital appearance than male functionality. Likewise, some 'XX' babies with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH), were so masculinized in their genital structure, that everyone believed they were actually boys.

How do we deal with with these cases?


15 posted on 01/23/2005 9:31:49 PM PST by punster
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IF THEY LIVE TO PUBERTY, since most don't, the issue is very very very doubtful to come up beyond mere hypotheticals.

This fool here is subject to a mental disease which even the faaaar left APA has included in their DSM IV. They treate the SYMPTOMS of the illness by mutilation.


17 posted on 01/23/2005 9:35:18 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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ping


18 posted on 01/23/2005 9:35:56 PM PST by paltz
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To: thangdatrang

seems like both conspired to perpetrate a fraud.


19 posted on 01/23/2005 9:37:15 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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