Analysis: U.S. losing ground in Iraq war ( Knight Ridder newspapers say...)

Seattle Times ^ | Sunday, January 23, 2005 | Tom Lasseter and Jonathan S. Landay

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks.

[Darkwolf377]

I don't understand the "you want to give them quarter, have at it" comment. I take all data from all sources and examine it, period. If you want to just say "They lie they lie they lie!" and pretend that the occupation in Iraq is going perfectly without allowing yourself to read and question any info indicating otherwise, have at it. But the tendency to just say "Everything they say is a lie" is kinda silly.

[roaddog727]

Lefty-Liberal

Blah, Blah Blather

[Darkwolf377]

It just seems so easy for some to read any MSM article that says something we don't want to hear and dismiss it as "All lies!" What kind of response is that? Answer: The childish DUmmie-like response that refuses to listen to any contradiction to the party line.

I've come to the conclusion from various sources, including people on the ground in Iraq who've come back, that things there are both better AND worse than we've been led to believe. Overall I think it will be seen as a political win in the end. But I want to see ALL points of view, ALL facts--I don't want "conservative" reporting anymore than I want liberal reporting--I want information. If I'm right about my assessment, I want to hear whatever the opposition has to throw at me so I can refute it.

But the responses here have been "Don't pay no attention" and extremely minor quibbling about the actual figures reported--so they didn't include January's losses; uh, maybe that's because January isn't over yet??--not hard, factual evidence contradicting these reported facts.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Orange County Register now has this story up on the Web Site:

U.S. losing ground in Iraq

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Good comments.



See #65 also.

[KevinDavis]

Also to the Freerepublic Armchair General Brigrade: Relax and let the professionals handle this confilct. They know more than we do..

[dirtboy]

• U.S. military fatalities from hostile acts have risen from an average of about 17 per month just after President Bush declared an end to major combat operations on May 1, 2003, to an average of 82 per month.

The casualties spike up in November with the assault on Fallujah, and that carried into December with subsequent pursuit of insurgents into other cities. But don't let the facts get in the way.

Attacks on the U.S.-led coalition since November 2003, when statistics were first available, have risen from 735 a month to 2,400 in October.

First of all, define attacks, and second, buried in this stat is the fact that attacks on American troops are dropping.

One of the first signs of statistical abuse is when the baseline changes from claim to claim.

[Saberwielder]

Knight Ridder - Putting the anal in analysis...

The MSM idiots are going to get their collective panties in a bunch with the impending elections which are going to be more successful then they fear it could be. Expect such 'preemptive' attacks till then.

[ForGod'sSake]

But the tendency to just say "Everything they say is a lie" is kinda silly.

Actually, I think it would more accurate than not. The MSM is our ENEMY! They will use every means at their disposal, which are considerable, to beat us. Even using the truth occasionally when it serves their purposes. Tsun Tzu could learn a few things about deception from our faux press.

FGS

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I love to see crap articles like this getting dissected on Freerepublic....

[windchime]

"When you see a piece like this one.....their is no doubt that someone has an agenda..."

Soros & associates......

Brookings Institution Joins Institute's EGI to Examine US Policy on Global Poverty

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Iraq Revenue Watch

"When you see a piece like this one.....their is no doubt that someone has an agenda..."

[SunkenCiv]

Recent polls already suggest an erosion of support among Americans for the war.

Same dung, different week. (': According to the papers, going back years, there never was any support among Americans for the liberation of Iraq.

In the US we have civilian control of the military. But it is controlled by elected civilians, not a bunch of partisan media shills. :')