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Summers Draws Fire For Remarks on Women
Crimson ^
| January 19, 2005
| DANIEL J. HEMEL
Posted on 01/23/2005 1:22:58 PM PST by tbird5
Harvard President Lawrence H. Summers triggered a national media frenzy when he suggested at an economics conference last Friday that the scarcity of female scientists at elite universities may stem from innate differences between the sexes, although two Harvard professors who heard the speech said his remarks have been taken out of context.
MIT biologist Nancy Hopkins 64 said she felt physically ill while listening to Summers speech at a National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) luncheon on Friday, and left the conference room half-way through the presidents remarks.
For him to say that aptitude is the second most important reason that women dont get to the top when he leads an institution that is 50 percent women studentsthats profoundly disturbing to me, Hopkins said in an interview Monday. He shouldnt admit women to Harvard if hes going to announce when they come that, hey, we dont feel that you can make it to the top.
But Lee Professor of Economics Claudia Goldin, whose own research has examined the progress of women in academia and professional life, said she was pretty flummoxed by the negative response to Summers speech, whichin her viewdisplayed utter brilliance.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: academia; larrysummers; sexdifferences
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posted on
01/23/2005 1:22:58 PM PST
by
tbird5
To: tbird5
I wonder if Nancy Hopkins realizes that her overreaction to Summers' comments just reinforces the stereotype of women as emotionally fragile and prone to hysteria.
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posted on
01/23/2005 1:26:32 PM PST
by
sassbox
To: tbird5
To: sassbox
True that. The science field is full of contentiousness and conflicting theories. Instead of challenging him in the follow up Q&A session she became "physically ill" and felt compelled to run away from what he was saying? Sort of proves his point for him.
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posted on
01/23/2005 1:30:57 PM PST
by
dandi
(Looking forward to more P.E.S.T.s in 2006.)
To: tbird5
scarcity of female scientists at elite universities may stem from innate differences
Note the use of the word MAY. I guess you're not even permitted to postulate ideas that are not PC, much less claim they are fact. It goes to thought control as much as speech control.
Summers is actually not a bad guy. He managed to get rid of that idiot Cornell West professor of African-American studies.
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posted on
01/23/2005 1:32:33 PM PST
by
ProudVet77
(Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
To: ProudVet77
Slate magazine (an otherwise liberal rag) has an excellent article by William Saletan on this topic. Go to http://www.slate.com/id/2112570/ to read the article.
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posted on
01/23/2005 1:43:13 PM PST
by
indcons
(The Quran - the world's first WMD)
To: indcons
This is so much political correctness crap. One can't even discuss such matters without some bleeding heart feining and/or fainting. This Hopkins beeyotch needs to apologize to Summers for raising the contention in the first place and then she should banish herself from the real world and go to Feminania, the land alongside Amazonia, where women can do their thing sans any opposing viewpoints. Wotta maroon!! Just goes to show that mostly only college-educated people can think that honest discussion is an evil thing. She should mind her own business (dare I say tend to her knittin'?) Enuf awready!! SSZ
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posted on
01/23/2005 1:48:25 PM PST
by
szweig
To: sassbox
I wonder if Nancy Hopkins realizes that her overreaction to Summers' comments just reinforces the stereotype of women as emotionally fragile and prone to hysteria. Oh dear, now you've done it again. Poor little Nancy will have another bout of the vapors over comments like that. Someone fetch her smelling salts.
Seriously when are libs going to let this stupid non-story die?
To: indcons
Excellent article. Thanks for the link.
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posted on
01/23/2005 2:08:00 PM PST
by
ProudVet77
(Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
To: tbird5
MIT biologist Nancy Hopkins 64 said she felt physically ill while listening to Summers speech
I advise her to see a doctor, because she may be pregnant. Or maybe she is suffering from hot flashes or menstrual cramps. All these things are alien to men so I would advise a woman doctor.
To: tbird5
"Nancy Hopkins 64 said she felt physically ill while listening to Summers.. "This is a common reaction when people are confronted with truths from which they had been shielded.
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posted on
01/23/2005 3:28:03 PM PST
by
rimmont
To: tbird5
The institution is 50% female because of affirmative action. Without it it would be about 5-10%. That is a fact. THe system is ALEADY distorted due to lib policies, and many able men are being passed over because they don't have the right sex.
I call this discrimination. How about vomiting about that!
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posted on
01/23/2005 3:41:04 PM PST
by
seppel
To: tbird5
Gee, first he dissed Cornell West and the Black Studies program at Harvard and now he has roiled the feminazis. I didn't much care for Larry Summers when he worked for Clintoon, but the guy is beginning "to grow" - the as libs like to say.
To: tbird5
Consider some hard evidence of genetic differences:
What's the evidence on Summers' side? Start with the symptom: the gender gap in test scores. Next, consider biology. Sex is easily the biggest physical difference within a species. Men and women, unlike blacks and whites, have different organs and body designs. The inferable difference in genomes between two people of visibly different races is one-hundredth of 1 percent. The gap between the sexes vastly exceeds that. A year and a half ago, after completing a study of the Y chromosome, MIT biologist David Page calculated that male and female human genomes differed by 1 percent to 2 percent"the same as the difference between a man and a male chimpanzee or between a woman and a female chimpanzee," according to a paraphrase in the New York Times. "We all recite the mantra that we are 99 percent identical and take political comfort in it," Page said. "But the reality is that the genetic difference between males and females absolutely dwarfs all other differences in the human genome." Another geneticist pointed out that in some species 15 percent of genes were more active in one sex than in the other.
You'd expect some of these differences to show up in the brain, and they do. A study of mice published a year ago in Molecular Brain Research found that just 10 days after conception, at least 50 genes were more active in the developing brain of one sex than in the other. Comparing the findings to research on humans, the Los Angeles Times observed that "the corpus callosum, which carries communications between the two brain hemispheres, is generally larger in women's brains [than in men's]. Female brains also tend to be more symmetrical.
Men and women, on average, also possess documented differences in certain thinking tasks and in behaviors such as aggression."
http://www.slate.com/Default.aspx?id=2112570&
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