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Couldn't "ourselves" be considered "inate"? Wouldn't that logic lead to being "programmed" or "implantation" -- whatever moral code the psyche accepts as "truth"?

Well, like I said in my last post, "I understand that you believe that for us to have come to this result, it would have to have been put there (or programmed) by a creator, but I don't share this conclusion. I think people are capable of coming up with moral codes and rules without the help of a God."

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree on this one - to me, the fact that we have these thoughts in no way implies that they were "programmed" by a higher being.

The metaphysical is just as real as the physical -- is it not? BOTH have had to be created by...someone OR some thing. WE are not our own creator in a physical sense, nor then mental.

No, but I believe that we create for ourselves the thoughts that we think.

Again, the circle leads to WHO created those "traits" or "instincts"?

Well, you think it's a "WHO" and I think it's a "WHAT!" : )

"We'll probably just have to agree to disagree on this one - to me, the fact that we have these thoughts in no way implies that they were 'programmed' by a higher being."

Fair enough...

"I believe that we create for ourselves the thoughts that we think."

I concur.

But like baking a cake, don't you first need the ingredients to do so? ;-)