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To: Melas
That's the problem with debating religion, period. Invective is pretty much the pinacle of the debate. Few minds are ever changed. The older and wiser I become, the more I realize that if conversion is possible it has to come from love, not debate.

Sometimes it's a loving thing to point out to a person that they aren't consistent with what they believe, or that that there are holes in their world view that they may not have considered. Jesus engaged in debates with religious leaders of His day and He essentially said "It isn't about religion, it's about a relationship between you and God, not how many religious duties you have performed."

That being said, what's a soft atheist?

109 posted on 01/23/2005 6:31:59 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Bosco
That being said, what's a soft atheist?

I'll take this one - a "soft" or "weak" atheist is in contrast to a "strong" atheist. The majority of atheists are in fact soft atheists although many think that soft atheism is equivalent to agnosticism.

Here's the distinction as I see it:

Agnostic - Doesn't know whether there is a God or not and doesn't believe that we can ever really know. Will never take a position on whether or not there is a God.

Strong Atheist - Believes positively there is no God. If he sees any evidence for God, he will believe it is flawed because he knows there is no God. Most people mistakenly believe that the majority of atheists believe this, but these types of atheists are in the minority, and in fact, not looked that respectfully upon by many other atheists because making a positive statement that there is no God is very similar to making a positive statement that there is a God - both are just absolute beliefs that rely on faith. When people talk derisively about atheists and describe their beliefs, they are usually talking about strong atheism which is frustrating to the majority of soft atheists...

Weak/Soft Atheist (the majority of atheists) - They believe that there is no God because they have yet to see any compelling evidence of a God. They will keep an open mind as to the existence of God, but have yet to see evidence as of yet. If they are made aware of any compelling reason to believe in a God, then they will certainly believe. If God appeared to them tomorrow, they would cease to be atheists. They don't discount the possiblity of God exisiting, but in the same vein, they don't discount the possibility of the Loch Ness Monster or leprechauns existing. I'm not saying this to be flip. We might find out someday that there were a bunch of reclusive Irish midgets that could do things that regular people couldn't, and we might find out for sure some day that there is some great force out there that is intelligent and guiding us. Until then, soft atheists don't believe in God, and in fact, most are not even capable of believing in God as anything more than a vague and unlikely possibility.

Hope that helped!

205 posted on 01/25/2005 10:07:42 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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