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To: WorkingClassFilth
In my view, King role did that was positive little beyond reminding us of our Constitutional duty to provide equality under the law - something, I might add, Americans have ALWAYS led the world in.

If America ALWAYS held up its duty to provide equality, Martin Luther King would not have had a platform. The fact that there were many who believed, and still believe, that they are "chosen" Americans, is the reason that civil rights are even being discussed here.

38 posted on 01/23/2005 9:58:27 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (LET NO ONE BE FORGOTTEN, LET NO ONE FORGET)
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To: World'sGoneInsane
I guess I fail to see your point. We apparently agree that things are not perfect, but what I also see is that only America has offered, and still offers, the greatest freedom to the greatest number of peopel of all races and classes of any nation in the history of the world. I do not subscribe to any philosophy that holds America as some sort of concentration camp with millions languishing in bondage and darkness. In real terms, America doesn't even have poor people - our 'disenfranchised' are more a product of their own dissipating and envy of the material wealth so abundant in our society.

When I say that we have always led the way in human freedom, let me explain with a few points...

1. America radically adopted the Constitution as our primary article of confederation. No other human document has been so sweeping or promised so much to so many.

2. Our Founders knew that the inclusive nature of that document included slaves. Many wanted the repeal of slavery but it was kept as a cost of the fragile coalition knowing it would force reconciliation's at some later time.

3. Some Founders actually freed their slaves.

4. The early colonies were, in fact, peopled by many Europeans who were, in fact, bond servants and through work obtained their independence.

5. Religious piety led the anti-slavery movement in this country while most of the world eventually abandoned it because of financial reasons.

6. We struggled internally with slavery from our inception as a nation in 1787 until 1861 when we went to war over the issue.

7. In 1865, we resolved the Constitutional wording with the greatest bloodletting in our history. That is 78 years from a slaver nation to one that recognized the radical ideas of equality.

8. The 100 years until the Civil Rights act were, due to our weak central government, uneven and disparate in the application of Constitutional law. Nonetheless, it stood as a legal standard despite the efforts of the Democratic Party to undermine the concept of Republicanism and to terrorize blacks.

9. The passage of the Civil Rights act was overwhelmingly voted for by Republicans, but, not so for the Democrat obstructionists.

10. With the growth of the Federal government, the law, however imperfect, still stands for all Americans rights and freedoms. Unfortunately, the great failing today is more one of individual failings than that of the law or American society.

11. In spite of the so-called evidence of discrimination, black America, it were a sovereign nation would be the 7th richest nation on earth. This may or may not be factually true, but the comparative wealth would still be enormous.

12. Today's legacy of civil rights is largely counterproductive. Civil Rights are synthetically derived for specious groups like gays. Black leaders call for apartheid policies of their own and demand federal funding for racially segregated schooling. Millions of blacks still blame society for their failure to integrate despite the overwhelming evidence before our faces that millions still come to this country and overcome their personal limitations through the eternal American values of determination and work.

I could go on and on, but I don't think you'll get the point. Suffice it to say that you may not like what you imagine to be terrible discrimination, but I defy you to give me any example where things have ever been as good for so many despite their individual differences.
77 posted on 01/23/2005 3:59:02 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Let's arm all the "patriotic" Democrats and field a penal battalion...)
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