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To: judywillow
And you're calling ME a hate monger??????

There are three things that are guaranteed to come from the Evolutionist/Materialist: Lies, Hypocrisy and Insults. That is their stock in trade

There are four things people try to point out about JudyWillow's beliefs in these discussions:

1. It's junk science.
1. It's junk religion.

It is junk science because it is based primarily on presumptions that can't be proved.   The materialists have faith that abiogenesis happened.  They have faith that radioisotope measurements are based on predictable decay over eons of time.  They have faith that order comes from chaos.  They have faith that material appeared ex nihilo.   These same scientists that swear that their ancestors are worms and apes are the same ones who are absolutely certain about global warming.   What is ironic is that these materialist scientists claim all kinds of global catastrophe over a 1 centigrade rise in temperature, while they will at the same time call you an idiot for mentioning a global catastrophe a little over four thousand years ago.

OTOH, The retort that you have a "junk religion" generally is cause for hitting the abuse button.  Their hate speech towards Christians is no different than racists calling blacks with offensive slang.  Expect it.  When called on point #2, you are dead on point.  They are Christophobes who are in mortal fear of those who don't subscribe to their death cult.

2. As junk science goes, it's dangerous junk science. Nazism and communism were based on it.
2. As junk religion goes, it's dangerous junk religion. Hatred of scientists, atheists, and gays, are based on it. Left unchecked it will ultimately destroy all the freedoms that America has stood for.

Junk science is the precursor to Nazism and Marxism.  Nazism borrowed heavily from the Evolutionist's Dream of eugenics.  The US was experimenting in neutering of "genetically inferior" stock of people, and Hitler's boy picked up quick on that trend and declared by fiat all Jews as being members of an inferior genetic stock.   Marxism requires evolution because, as the US founding fathers observed, Man has inalienable Rights which come from his Creator.   Eliminate the Creator, and now the State is the sole repository of privileges.  Materialists want God gone so that they can pursue the immoral lifestyle.  Remove God, then remove any responsibility to Him.  The State fills the vacuum.

"Hatred of scientists" is the typical crap that Materialists pull.   It is in their best interests to create this highly insulting and bigoted image that only knuckle dragger luddites would believe in a Creator.   If materialists acknowledged the great number of "scientists" who are Creationists, or at least consider Evolution vain speculation, then they would lose their most useful tool - pandering, insults and demands to "shut up because we know better than you.".   Evolutionists can't debate without resorting to fallacies, lies and fraud, so they try to convince everyone that their opponents aren't worth believing - borrowing another fallacy, the False Dilemma

3. It's totally incompatible with Christianity or any other believable religion.
3. It is totally incompatible with reason.

Once again, they must make it personal.  The Christophobes want you to believe that Occam's Razor is unreasonable.  It is much better to believe in Big Bang, not because of any evidence, but because if fits their philosophy.  You must believe in the Oort cloud.  Not because there is any evidence of it, not that it can be sighted or measured, but because their absolute faith in Billions Of Years is incompatible with the existence of short term comets.   Materialists call it "reasonable" to make up all kinds of wild ideas, and call this speculation "fact" or at least "theory".  Evolutionists also call it "reasonable" to base their evidence on outright fraud.  Ernst Haeckel and his "gill slits" human embryos?  Or the fraud of Archaeopteryx - sure, there's scientific evidence for you - just brush on some cement and press a feather in it and declare it a "transitional fossil".  The sychophants of Evolution will latch on to that and won't let go even decades after the fraud is made well known.  According to them, believing a proven lie is "reasonable".

4. It's part and parcel of certain kinds of agendas, which have nothing to do with conservatism. Granted not all gay people are agenda freaks, but the ones who are love evolutionism.
4. It's part and parcel of certain kinds of hatefulness, which have nothing to do with conservatism. Granted not all who share JudyWillow's beliefs are hate freaks, but the ones who are hate almost everyone who doesn't share their bigotted worldview.

You can't be an evolutionist until you engage in insults, lies and most important of all - hypocrisy.   Evolutionists hate Christians, that is why they drag Christians to court.  That is why they demonstrate their hate by those insulting legs added to the Christian ixthus.   They do it because they are the bigots, the haters, and the oppressors.   All Christians want is for their children not to be propagandized by atheistic evolution.   So I fully expect them to project their own sociopathic failings on Christians.   Why not?  It works wonderfully for the Left.   They are using tried and true Hard Left tactics to attack their philosophical foes.

630 posted on 01/25/2005 6:43:13 PM PST by Reuben Hick
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To: Reuben Hick
Evolutionists also call it "reasonable" to base their evidence on outright fraud. Ernst Haeckel and his "gill slits" human embryos? Or the fraud of Archaeopteryx - sure, there's scientific evidence for you - just brush on some cement and press a feather in it and declare it a "transitional fossil". The sychophants of Evolution will latch on to that and won't let go even decades after the fraud is made well known. According to them, believing a proven lie is "reasonable".

"Fake but accurate....."

Sounds familiar somehow or other.
652 posted on 01/26/2005 1:33:26 AM PST by judywillow
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To: Reuben Hick
You can't be an evolutionist until you engage in insults, lies and most important of all - hypocrisy. Evolutionists hate Christians, that is why they drag Christians to court.

If asked to phrase that one, I'd say that agenda freaks hate Christians and chiefly for that reason cling to evolution decades after evolution has been disproven.

653 posted on 01/26/2005 3:01:34 AM PST by judywillow
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