Posted on 01/23/2005 1:11:01 AM PST by rdb3
So start a new thread on that topic instead of hijacking these ones.
I suggest you put it in the Religion Forum.
Don't ping me. If I choose to reply to your nonsense, I'll reply to it; but I have no interest in being directed to it.
Interesting observation. Then, I take it, you wouldn't object to this interpretation being taught to kids in public school?
Very well. I won't ping you anymore...
Interpretations of the Bible don't need to be taught in public schools. No matter which interpretation we're talking about. That's your church's job.
Schools should teach science. That's it. End of story.
And if religious people are intellegent enough to see that Genesis doesn't conflict with science, then that's wonderful.
I'm not hijacking this thread any more, or any less, than you. And, this thread deals with religion from the outset, unless I don't know what the NYTIMES editorial was saying ...
Although the sticker makes no mention of religion and the school board as a whole was not trying to advance religion, a federal judge in Georgia ruled that the sticker amounted to an unconstitutional endorsement of religion because it was rooted in long-running religious challenges to evolution.
Yep, you're right, this thread is not a religious thread....
There is a distinction between so-called and called.
The Theory of Evolution does not belong in science classes. It belongs in Culture and Philosophy of Science classes. A teaching made up mostly of reasonable conjecture and wishful thinking (with a fair share of BS thrown in) cannot do the job of teaching how things work. Leave that to science.
You're delusional.
Actually, in a couple of posts, on one thread, you did, after many, many goads, finally come out and support monogamy, and I agree you offered some reasons why you thought from an evolutionary standpoint point you thought it was a good idea. But the effort to get you there! My keyboard nearly shorted out!
But, first off, your statements, except for one other by another caustic poster IIRC, are rare. Second, the sheer number of statements supporting ToE regardless, and beating back the efforts of Christians, is quite large.
Third, you don't have any links handy in which any ToE person can state ... "here's the latest body of hard research which defends from the TOE standpoint monogamy!"
Can you imagine how much this disagreement would just evaporate if your side suddenly said, 'ya know, these bible thumpers are really nuts about evolution, but they sure make a good point about the sex craziness in our society! Let's put a 'here are the morals behind responsible love making website' up!
But where in PH's links do you find that?
OH!, I see, the creationist's are being "crafty"...
Now, thats possible.. God bless em'..
Don't ping me either. I have no interest in your opinions.
You've just defined the basis of salesmanship -- create a problem (original sin), supply the answer (Jesus died to wipe it away), rake in the bucks (organized religion). It's the same plot as "The Musicman."
You always have the other option: God created man to just enjoy the universe and doesn't need any gimmicks or parlor tricks to ensure everyone gets what's coming to him because He's above all that.
Adopting a position for the sake of political expediency is a tactic used by those who have little or no concern for truth, except for the sake of personal gain and power. Of course, when "survival of the fittest" is the operative norm in one's head, what else does one do but bend as needed?
That was your question ... I answered it.
Don't ping me either. I have no interest in your opinions.
I see that my response was too much of a challenge for you. And now, you don't want me to ping you anymore either.
I think I might be the only one in freeper land accorded such a nobel honor.
As I told RWP, don't slam me by name, or reference, in other threads without a courtesy ping, and I'll be more than happy to let your own statements dangle all by themselves...and not ping you anymore...
And if anyone else out there senses that the kitchen is getting too hot for them, let me know!
No. I understand you very well. The evo's around here have their panties in a wad because creationists are unwilling to shut up and thus are costing "votes" for the party. As I said, it stands to reason when one's operative norm in life is "survival of the fittest."
Wow, he's above all that ... what a statement of confidence. I tell you what Junior ... I'll just let those words speak for themselves...
Put it down to a combination of
a)I didn't understand the relevance of the issue to the truth of ToE
b) I didn't read your posts that carefully (sorry)
c) I find your obessession with the link between sexual morality and ToE bemusing.
But, first off, your statements, except for one other by another caustic poster IIRC, are rare.
Perhaps because no-one else thinks your obession is relevant, either. So like me they don't see why they should bare their souls on an unrelated issue.
Second, the sheer number of statements supporting ToE regardless, and beating back the efforts of Christians, is quite large.
At least my attempts to be caustic are succeeding.
Funny how some people feel compelled to support the truth, regardless. What do you want us to do? Kowtow to those who lie, or have swallowed the mis-information of the creationism movement.
Third, you don't have any links handy in which any ToE person can state ... "here's the latest body of hard research which defends from the TOE standpoint monogamy!"
No we don't. Perhaps that is because we are bemused by your obsession with this topic. Perhaps it is because we think it is the kind of area where opinions are cheap and hard research is virtually impossible.
Tell you what, since this issue is important to you, why don't you create the aforementioned website?
Can you imagine how much this disagreement would just evaporate if your side suddenly said, 'ya know, these bible thumpers are really nuts about evolution, but they sure make a good point about the sex craziness in our society! Let's put a 'here are the morals behind responsible love making website' up!
How do you know that no-one "on our side" has. The thing is, it has absolutely nothing to do with whether ToE is true or not, which is the point at isseu.
But where in PH's links do you find that?
Nowhere, because you are the only one obsessed with the connection.
"If you are uncomfortable with differing viewpoints, or are unwilling/unable to defend your position without condescension, perhaps you should occupy a pew and pray for better debating skills."
Hmmmm... This doesn't sound arrogant, right? LOL
Do you just go around picking fights, or do you have anything to contribute?
(btw what I said was not ad hominem-Perhaps you should pray that you understand the term.)
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