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Elian (Gonzalez) Assault Trial Set for Monday
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Posted on 01/22/2005 1:21:27 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: cyborg
Besides if they're successful and not sponging off the government what do you care?Successful bank robbers are not sponging off of the government me either.
Our government needs to have a real policy regarding this issue. Either it is wrong or it isn't. Grey exists for the left not for the right.
We do not frown on the hungry stealing an apple. It would be a different story if that same apple was your child's dinner. This person stole food from your child's mouth.
It is a matter of perspective.
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posted on
01/22/2005 7:15:30 PM PST
by
Eaker
("I am a Scientist ............... and that was fast for me.")
To: Eaker
Yes but it's government's official policy because of Castro. it's not illegal entry if the government says it isn't. Besides ending the policy of asylum for Cubans is NOT going to end in this lifetime as long as Castro is alive and also as republicans are running for office.
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posted on
01/22/2005 7:18:18 PM PST
by
cyborg
To: DoughtyOne
The family still had litigation before the court on this matter, when federal agents stormed the family residence. Due process is either a reasoned concept or it isn't. Evidently the Clinton administration deemed that it wasn't. A final decision from the highest court in the land should have been handed down, BEFORE federal agents were turned lose on Elian's relatives. Even then, the family should have been given the opportunity to hand Elian over in an orderly manor, after all appeals had been reviewed and denied. There are valid claims by both sides regarding who should have been given final custody of Elian. The courts and not the Clinton administration should have had the final say on the matter. AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! You are exactly right!
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posted on
01/22/2005 7:37:45 PM PST
by
rmh47
(Go Kats! - Got Seven?)
To: cyborg
You are right.
Yet wrong is wrong and illegal is illegal.
President Bush is doing nothing to change government policy in this respesct.
Can we fix this?
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posted on
01/22/2005 7:53:41 PM PST
by
Eaker
("I am a Scientist ............... and that was fast for me.")
To: Eaker
It's not going to happen anytime soon. Tampering with the wet foot-dry foot policy would be death politically. I am not that familiar with the Cuban community in Florida except to say that how some Cubans get here is considered an act of insulting Castro not illegal immigration (like the Mexicans).
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posted on
01/22/2005 7:57:44 PM PST
by
cyborg
To: cyborg
Actually, the policy of 'feet wet-feet dry' has its genesis in E.O. 12807, signed by GHW Bush in May, 1992.
Blame Jimmuh and Clinton for wet foot-dry foot.
There was a drop in 2002 - 2003, but probably not from 9/11. 2004 levels approached the 2001 mark.
Maritime Migrant flow from Cuba:
FY2000 - 2811
FY2001 - 3277
FY2002 - 2119
FY2003 - 2823
FY2004 - 3082
Even so, the amount of Cubans getting here by means of studebakers, pickups on tires, and inner tubes has decreased SEVERELY since 9-11.
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posted on
01/22/2005 8:04:01 PM PST
by
Ready4Freddy
(Veni Vidi Velcro)
To: Ready4Freddy
I was mistaken about Clinton with wet foot-dry foot, but I do believe the Mariel Boatlift happened under the watch of Jimmuh.
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posted on
01/22/2005 8:09:25 PM PST
by
cyborg
To: rmh47
Thank you. I appreciate it.
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posted on
01/22/2005 8:10:26 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
To: cyborg
Mariel was April - October, 1980, so it was during the Carter admin. Not like they could do much about Castro emptying his prisons and giving them boats, tho.
Feet wet-feet dry also had genesis in Pres Proc 4685 and EO 12324, both signed in September, 1981 by Reagan.
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posted on
01/22/2005 8:17:58 PM PST
by
Ready4Freddy
(Veni Vidi Velcro)
To: Clemenza
Once Castro is gone...and Elian is in his 20's, I predict that the young man will come back here again. I know he's likely been 'brainwashed'; but I also believe the effects are short-lived and not permanent. That boy knew true freedom when he was here. He'll remember. This time he'll stay.
Reagan80
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posted on
01/22/2005 8:21:56 PM PST
by
Reagan80
("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
To: Reagan80
So you assume that circumstances won't get better when Castro goes belly up? When / if things do improve in Cuba, I surmise that the flow will be from the SE US
to Cuba, not the other way around.
Once Castro is gone...and Elian is in his 20's, I predict that the young man will come back here again.
91
posted on
01/22/2005 8:27:21 PM PST
by
Ready4Freddy
(Veni Vidi Velcro)
To: HungarianGypsy
Tell them it was peaceful in Berlin in 1934 too.
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posted on
01/22/2005 8:28:13 PM PST
by
bvw
To: ALOHA RONNIE
To: Lancey Howard
Agreed. Should finally put to rest the notion that the INS pointed a gun at Elian.
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posted on
01/22/2005 9:03:00 PM PST
by
Ready4Freddy
(Veni Vidi Velcro)
To: joesnuffy
To: Clemenza
To: snopercod
Thank you so much for linking to the DSL! Hugs!!!
To: Ready4Freddy
Should finally put to rest the notion that the INS pointed a gun at Elian.LMAO!
To: Ready4Freddy
Hey Freddy, why don't you go back where you came from?
Make the USA a better country for us all, why doncha?
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posted on
01/22/2005 10:12:09 PM PST
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: HungarianGypsy
---And I know someone who says he misses how peaceful it was during the Clinton years ....---
Many neighborhoods are quieter after the liberals control the government... Hey, where'd everybody go?
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posted on
01/22/2005 10:23:39 PM PST
by
gortklattu
(As the preacher in Blazing Saddles said "You're on your own.")
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