Posted on 01/22/2005 10:37:46 AM PST by Pikamax
On the heels of electoral victories to bar same-sex marriage, some influential conservative Christian groups are turning their attention to a new target: SpongeBob SquarePants.
"Does anybody here know SpongeBob?" James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, asked the guests Tuesday night at a black-tie dinner for members of Congress and political allies to celebrate the election results.
In many circles, SpongeBob needs no introduction. He is popular among children and grownups as well who watch him cavorting under the sea on the Nickelodeon cartoon program that bears his name. In addition, he has become a camp figure among adult gay men, perhaps because he holds hands with his animated sidekick Patrick.
Now, Dobson said, SpongeBob's creators had enlisted him in a "pro-homosexual video," in which he appeared alongside other children's television characters such as Barney and Jimmy Neutron, among many others.
Christian Conservative groups have issued a gay alert warning over a children's video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney and a host of other cartoon favorites.
The wacky square yellow SpongeBob is one of the stars of a music video due to be sent to 61,000 U.S. schools in March. The makers -- the nonprofit We Are Family Foundation -- say the video is designed to encourage tolerance and diversity.
But at least two Christian activist groups say the innocent cartoon characters are being exploited to promote the acceptance of homosexuality.
Well said!
Nope.
Can't say that it has.
ty, EdReform.
Indeed. I'm never sure if some folks are just unaware of what's really happening or if they're part of the homosexual agenda manipulation game. Some of what we're seeing on this thread fits the manipulation games found in the link in post 132:
Propaganda relies more upon emotional manipulation that upon logic, since its goal is to bring about public change (page 162);... and more.Heterosexuals are like Aryans and people who are against homosexual behavior are "Nazis" and "Clansman".
Employ images that desensitize, jam, and/or convert on an emotional level (page 173);
Cognitive dissonance abounds, don't feel lonely.
Does that mean I'm in good company with you?
You just did.
Get help.
No, it means you're a judgemental son of a gun judging others to be too judgemental. It's pretty amusing actually.
You really do need to work on that comprehension skill.
Infer and speculate that famous historical figures were gay for two reasons: first, they are dead as a door nail, hence in no position to deny the truth and sue for libel; (page 188)We continue to see their agenda unfold before our eyes. And yet some folks try to play it off as if there's no such thing as a homosexual agenda... even in this video... They really need to open their eyes and see what's going on...
No. Why would you think such an evil thing anyway?
LOL. I'm obviously in the presence of brilliance and tolerance gone wild. What can one do in the face of such intellect and compassion?
I understand your post wasn't directed to me, personally. However, as your post was directed to all of those who are against homosexuality, or those with the agenda of pro-homosexuality, it was, generally.
Christ taught to love the sinner, not the sin. I don't have to accept their sin to love them. Nor will I allow them to mold my child into accept their sin as acceptable, either.
I know most every parent who has discussed these kinds of issues express the same sentiments. I have never heard that they hate homosexuals. I have heard people say they hate them for what they are doing to our society and our children: forcing us to accept what they do as normal and/or acceptable. Their lifestyle is UNACCEPTABLE.
Just as I find promiscuity unacceptable, murder unacceptable, the KKK unacceptable, terrorism unacceptable, and abortion unacceptable.
It does not follow, however, that because I am opposed to immoral behavior being taught as acceptable that I would encourage my children or others to behave immorally (bigotry, rascism, killing) toward others.
Hmmmm.....let me think about that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but.....isn't it sanctioned by some religions? Haven't some secular nations executed homosexuals? Aren't there folks in this country who so hate the homosexual that they'd murder one if they could?
I work with a fellow who, if he had the slightest provocation to do so, would. Doesn't that sort of thing scare you?
If it doesn't, you are the one who needs help.
See also: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1326199/posts?page=87#87
That lame statement has as much credibility as one that says secularists, such as yourself, feel "Christers" should be dealt with in the same way as the secularists in China handle them. Eh????
I hadn't read about that before, scripter. That's pathetic.
I just HAD to ping the HTT list for this one. Please, wake me up from this nightmare of nonsense!!! We kicked this about on the Kid Rock threads and others for a while, but it is becoming increasingly obvious that some people still do not "get it", and are encouraged in their delusions by such hucksters and conmen as Dobson and Wildmon.
Politics is the art of the possible. It is NOT a means to solve every slight or offense taken by every individual. POSSIBLE it is in the next four years to enact certain crucial points of the Right agenda...tort reform, tax reform, and Social Security reform. Furthermore, the possibility of confirming nwew justices to help in the slow healing of almost 50 years of Leftist rot exists. All these things, and maybe a few more, rest squarely within the POSSIBLE. However, if one or more is soundly defeated, they will not be again raised for a generation.
These "crusades" against such nonsensical things as Spongebob Squarepants, Kid Roc at the Inaugural, "indecency" on TV and in radio, inevitably brand the Right as unthinking buffoons, and render its message about serious economic and legal issues moot and "guilty by association". They make people question our sanity.
The President hasd an ambitious, to say the least, agenda for his final term, including all of the above items PLUS, of course, winning the Terror War. He will need the support and effort of ALL the Right ere it is finished. He has already laid out his agenda; it does not include such foolishness as Dobson and Wildmon would drag to it and affix to it with barbed staples. Such distractions over ridiculous things like cartoon characters do far more harm than good, and play directly to our opponents' best arguments against us.
Oh, and spare me the testimonials to Dobson and Wildmon's efforts on behalf of "families". One of the biggest problems families face today is paying the bills and avoiding the need to have both parents work. Part of this worry is because of taxes and Social Security concerns. If these preachers wanted to truly do something, they'd take all of that dough they currently bring in and assist in the lobbying of Congress and the people for such changes. As well, they'd take on the Bar Association over tort reform. That they continue to waste time and money chasing after cartoon characters is all the evidence I need to call them, as I do, conmen and hucksters. Serious people do not do such things; they do not willingly invite ridicule...unless the profit motive were present.
Forgive the rant. But recently, I have become quite frustrated with thiose who continue to take their eyes off the targets and chase rabbits (or sponges) to no possible benefit or result. There is probably ZERO chance that any "boycott" of Spongebob will have any effect whatsoever on th evideo people. It is a waste of time and prestige, much as was the reaction (wholly manyfactured) to the Kid Rock situation. Distractions and sideshows, bread and circuses, deflecting needed energy from far more serious and lasting matters.
I also have come to the end of my patience with so-called "conservatives" who imitate perfectly the ever-offended Left in spouting and sputtering over ANYTHING that concievably twists their tails. Not every issue is Earth-shattering; not EVERY little word or phrase is part of a "conspiracy". However, thoase who believe that it IS are certainly quite popular...with the media. I'm sure they like to speak with people like that becaus ethey are a GOOD and POSITIVE representation of the Right. Yeah, sure...
The Left is nearing total destruction in America, and more's the joy; it had no right to even be here in its present form in the first place (and would not have been, save for the efforts of communist-inspired and paid operatives in the '60s and '50s). One of the things that killed it was its inability to avoid wandering off into the hinterlands with such issues like gun control, the "peace" movement, and radical environmentalism. Special interst groups within it dragged it to those tar pits, whence the American people at large simply would not follow.
The Right could easily find itself struggling in those same tar pits next to its old enemies if we continue to be dragged there by those with no perspective, seriousness, or reason. This nonsense (the Spongebob stuff) is exactly that kind of thing.
The proper course to take is to abhor the sin and love the sinner. It is the way I was taught and the way I've taught.
Sadly, there are those who would rather crush the vessel instead of replacing the wine.
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