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"NOT that the Creationists don't know it, but because many of them don't care. The idea is to discredit evolution."

Your statement applies at least equally when speaking of evolutionists seeking to not just discredit--but censor and burn any biblical/creationism-friendly teaching including Intelligent Design.

If evolutionists were all honest and consistent, you would ban from campus--not just the Bible--but also all Roman and Greek mythology, all teachings of the Koran, Hinduism, Buddhism, the existence on campus of The Arabian Nights and The Brothers Grimm fairy tales and the Roc creator-bird, as well as all Wiccan clubs and books, Black Magic, Halloween and other events, holidays, teachings, books and tales which purport to explain or advocate belief in anything other than the theory of evolution. But I shall say it--MOST evolutionists are utter hypocrites in this inconsistency. I don't say all--I say most. And in the spiritual realm, and I say this sadly and not in a way intended to provoke hostility here but in drawing a parallel--evolutionists are Satan's Useful Idiots just as the Peaceniks have been likewise to Marxism. Not said as invective, not said in anger. And if the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. Try on this one:

Is there a Satan? If God doesn't exist, if the Bible was man-made, if Satan didn't exist, if there were no power in prayer, if there wasn't power in the name and death and resurrection of Jesus, and if there were no such thing as evil: WHY would Michael Newdow, the ACLU and evolutionists be (in such a case) so pathologically focused on such a consuming, pathetic, quixotic mission as merely eliminating prayer in schools, banishing public crosses, seeking the removal of Ten Commandments from courthouses and "Under God" from our Pledge of Allegiance? If evolutionists are indeed greater thinkers, if evolutionists are indeed 'more evolved' then why would they bother with what us little-more-than-chimps would believe, knowing that one day we will be extinct? I submit that the cognitive dissonance of many who advocate evolution is greater than acknowledged and that it is from a position of perceived desperation and lack of credibility of their beliefs that so many evolutionists insist that no creationism or Intelligent Design model be taught as a contrasting theory, using the ruse of 'government-sponsored religion as their cloak. Otherwise they would be GLAD to posit them side-by-side and disprove creationism. But the Word of God changes lives, it opens eyes--thus it must be stopped by Satan...and his Useful Idiots. Truly sorry if that's you.

DON'T write me back immediately. Ask yourself if there might some TRUTH to my assertions about the inconsistency. Sleep on it. Maybe even pray about it. Then we can talk again another time, post me later if you like. For now, I must leave this thread and tend to other matters. Best to all.

Michael Newdow, the ACLU and evolutionists be (in such a case) so pathologically focused on such a consuming, pathetic, quixotic mission as merely eliminating prayer in schools, banishing public crosses, seeking the removal of Ten Commandments from courthouses and "Under God" from our Pledge of Allegiance?

Are you in such a need of a boogy man to oppose that you fail to see the difference between those of us who have nothing against Christianity, we just don't want children taught false science. We believe in the truth, and Newdow and his ilk have nothing to do with it.

I believe that this ID stuff has the potential to do great damage to Christianity. Science and the elite classes have ignored religion for years. But ID is picking a fight with them and they are reacting. Can Christianity handle genuine attacks? And I mean genuine attacks, not just eliminating prayer in schools.

What happens when professors actively challenge the faith of students? How many will reject their faith under such direct attacks? Some will, for sure.

Christians are provoking this issue. Not the other way round. I'm afraid this will do great damage to Christianity. If I were genuinely against God and religion, I would keep my mouth shut and let the damage occur. But I genuinely support what Christians are doing, and I don't want to see the carnage that will result in this war of faith.

Christians will lose. Big time.