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To: WildTurkey

Premise is spelled with an e.

The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something. Gaseous mixture ratios have to be within a certain range to burn, thus a further argument for its shrinking to maintain density equilibrium. Similarly the newest era of missles that sucks out the O^2 from the atmosphere creates suction. Review the laws of thermodynamics and physics and then we can talk again.


64 posted on 01/22/2005 10:27:46 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (AHEM Useful Idiots: YOU are the REDS. You and your Red-Stream Media. True America is BLUE.)
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To: Blurblogger
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something. Gaseous mixture ratios have to be within a certain range to burn, thus a further argument for its shrinking to maintain density equilibrium. Similarly the newest era of missles that sucks out the O^2 from the atmosphere creates suction. Review the laws of thermodynamics and physics and then we can talk again.

Uh, the sun is NOT on fire. Review and then we can talk again.

67 posted on 01/22/2005 10:31:57 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Blurblogger
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire!

Your information is a bit out of date: The Age of the Sun.

68 posted on 01/22/2005 10:32:07 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Blurblogger
It's on fire!

Wrong. Fire requires oxygen. The Sun's heat and light is the result of fusion (hydrogen now, helium later, heavier elements toward the end).

84 posted on 01/22/2005 10:52:57 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Blurblogger

"The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something."

You are too much my friend, you have some big nads saying this stuff in public, I have to give you that.

BTW, it's not burning, think of the sun as a permanent nuclear explosion.


91 posted on 01/22/2005 10:59:20 AM PST by Alacarte (There is no knowledge that is not power)
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To: Blurblogger; RadioAstronomer; ThinkPlease; PatrickHenry; snarks_when_bored
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something. Gaseous mixture ratios have to be within a certain range to burn, thus a further argument for its shrinking to maintain density equilibrium.

[Laughter subsides....]

Q. What is the maximum amount by which a star can decrease its mass by conversion to energy that is radiated away?

A.

"They [stars] are continually radiating energy into space and thereby losing mass, and, as this energy is released in nuclear reactions in the interior of the star..... This mass loss is slight, and cannot exceed 1% of the star's mass in its entire life...."

Source: "The Stars: Their Structure and Evolution," R. J. Tayler; Wykeham Publications (London) Ltd, 1974

I regret to inform you that your "hypothesis" about stellar structure and energy release mechanisms is in need of modification.

124 posted on 01/22/2005 12:12:23 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Blurblogger

"The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something. Gaseous mixture ratios have to be within a certain range to burn, thus a further argument for its shrinking to maintain density equilibrium. Similarly the newest era of missles that sucks out the O^2 from the atmosphere creates suction. Review the laws of thermodynamics and physics and then we can talk again. "

The sun is a nuclear reactor and being "on fire" shows very little understanding of nuclear reactions. However, the sun has clearly lost some mass since its formation, but as a percentage of its original, it is probably very small.


136 posted on 01/22/2005 12:28:01 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: Blurblogger
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! That's the funniest line I've seen all day.

142 posted on 01/22/2005 12:49:15 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Blurblogger
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire!

Doth thou trolleth?

204 posted on 01/22/2005 3:27:06 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Not a tag line)
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To: Blurblogger
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something.

Haven't read the whole thread yet, but I trust you've been taking a proper pounding for this post. I'll risk the following and hope it hasn't been anticipated already. (It's been on many another thread, of course.)

Nuclear fusion makes stars to shine.
Tropisms ma-ake the i-ivy twine!
Ray-ayleigh scattering makes skies so blue.
Testicular hormones are why I love you!

It's so sweet and sentimental I have to fight back the tears as I type. Hope you like it.
256 posted on 01/22/2005 4:52:31 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Blurblogger; WildTurkey; longshadow
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something. Gaseous mixture ratios have to be within a certain range to burn, thus a further argument for its shrinking to maintain density equilibrium. Similarly the newest era of missles that sucks out the O^2 from the atmosphere creates suction. Review the laws of thermodynamics and physics and then we can talk again.

The weak force is the force that induces beta decay via interaction with neutrinos. A star uses the weak force to “burn” (nuclear fusion). Three processes we observe are proton-to proton fusion, helium fusion, and the carbon cycle. Here is an example of proton-to-proton fusion, which is the process our own sun uses: (two protons fuse -> via neutrino interaction one of the protons transmutes to a neutron to form deuterium -> combines with another proton to form a helium nuclei -> two helium nuclei fuse releasing alpha particles and two protons).

629 posted on 01/23/2005 2:26:02 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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