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To: anguish
Easiest example to understand is that of bacteria. We continiously come up with new antibiotics because they evolve and develop resistance to the old kinds. This is so easily demonstrated that highschool students can do the experiment.

When do we get to something that can bee seen without a microscope? Look, I believe in adaptation and I don't believe the world is only 6000 years old BUT I still have problems with the religious faith the scientific community holds for the subject of evolution. If evolution is a scientific fact that precludes any type of intelligent design then it is past time for the high priests of that view to say it and let the chips fall where they may.

476 posted on 01/22/2005 10:36:55 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: Texasforever
When do we get to something that can bee seen without a microscope?
There are plenty of those as well. It may be a little technical, but you can see some examples here.
If evolution is a scientific fact that precludes any type of intelligent design then it is past time for the high priests of that view to say it and let the chips fall where they may.
Evolution can never preclude intelligent design. In fact, intelligent design cannot be falsified by science as it's beyond its scope. That, in turn, also means that Intelligent Design (as it is presented now) isn't science. This is why scientist go wild when people try to inject it into science classes.
481 posted on 01/22/2005 10:44:48 PM PST by anguish (while science catches up.... mysticism!)
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To: Texasforever
I still have problems with the religious faith the scientific community holds for the subject of evolution.

If something is shown to be true by a preponderance of facts, then it is not "faith" to believe that it is indeed true.

Evolution has a massive accumulation of evidence to support it, and any one of several methods to falsify it have not been found.

This last point is especially interesting. Since the Discovery Institute has assets and people and has existed for 25 years or more, they have yet to be able to falsify Evolution. And the attacks on Evolution go back before the DI. If Evolution were false, then physical evidence should be able to be found that would falsify it. They have not found it.

With so many people, trying for so many years, and they have not yet found genuine evidence that will falsify it, that makes Evolution just about the most solid scientific THEORY we have.

Evolution is seen as only faith, in those religious faithful who see Evolution as a rival to their legitimacy. Ironicly, science does not see faith as being a rival to Evolution. There are many believers who accept Evolution, including the official doctrine of the Catholic church and several other large denominations.

Despite the persecution complex of some religious people, Evolution is not trying to attack religion. It is religious people who are attacking Evolution. Science is merely defending itself. My fear is that in this defense process, that the faith of some religious people may be harmed.

486 posted on 01/22/2005 10:56:58 PM PST by narby ( A truly Intelligent Designer, would have designed Evolution)
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