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Ayatollahs in the classroom [Evolution and Creationism]
Berkshire Eagle (Mass.) ^
| 22 January 2005
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Posted on 01/22/2005 7:38:12 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
After having experienced a few of the evolution religion exchanges ...it is obvious that the darwin cult is the most hysterical, desperate and defensive. All the other sides are doing the Lord's work to show them the light.
But don't expect the willingly blind to see.
To: Seek
If you don't want creation OR evolution to be taught as science, than what DO you want taught when it comes to that subject?
TEACHER:
"OK class, today we are going to start discussion of two quasi-scientific belief systems pertaining to the origin of the universe and the origin of the species. Some people believe one way, some believe the other way--and some believe in a combination of the two. We are going to look at the origins of the belief systems and what some leaders say about each of the two, for and against, so you can make up your own minds."
< humor on
And for lab work, we will dissect one of each
< / humor off
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:40:29 PM PST
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(AHEM Useful Idiots: YOU are the REDS. You and your Red-Stream Media. True America is BLUE.)
To: narby
Christians will lose. Big time.That, and tghe fact that conservatism is already losing many potential converts, is why some of us post.
If you insist that ID gets mentioned in school, teachers are going to challenge students to find examples of research that supports it. Other than the bogus probability argument there isn't any.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:41:06 PM PST
by
js1138
To: Junior
"
being consistent with a significant amount of
the available data.Neither proven nor unproven.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:41:49 PM PST
by
norton
To: js1138
"Math give precision, but only answers the question asked. No one can ask the question needed to settle the question of abiogenesis, because no one knows what steps are necessary and sufficient." ![](http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/224/224535/folders/164132/1273085USA-09.gif)
Probability Math tells us that the odds of intelligently sequencing data into a specific order is usually 1.
That same math also shows that the probability of correctly sequencing billions of genetic programming instructions without any aid/bias is 0, given any amount of time less than infinity (e.g. the 17 billion years of our universe's existence).
This doesn't tell us that abiogenesis was aided or unaided, but it does show that there has to be some bias (either natural or intelligent) of some form to sequence so many instructions correctly.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:42:32 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: norton
Neither proven nor unproven.
Nothing in science is ever proven.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:44:17 PM PST
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: js1138
"If you insist that ID gets mentioned in school, teachers are going to challenge students to find examples of research that supports it." ![](http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/224/224535/folders/164132/1273085USA-09.gif)
Such examples abound. Intelligent Design correctly explains the creation of computer viri, artifically intelligent software, self-replicating machines, cloning, etc.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:44:39 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Blurblogger; narby; Liz
Dave Breese break
There has been a nonstop virulent attack on Christianity for 80+ years. Thomas Dewey, Freud, Marx, Darwin and others "rule from the grave" as has been said. These are indeed genuine attacks, always have been as far back as the Scopes trial and earlier....Some teachers and professors constantly challenge the faith of students daily....
You Might Be a Fundamentalist If...
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:45:34 PM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(Not a tag line)
To: norton
Oh, and:
"I'm open to any possibilities that meet the criteria of being a scientific theory. ID does not yet do that. Holding the door open a little bit?
Does that not allow for discussion of the two without the demagoguery?
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:46:06 PM PST
by
norton
To: metacognative
All the other sides are doing the Lord's work to show them the light...Is lying part of the Lord's work? What do you say to the manufactured quotations found on dozens of the most popular creationism web sites?
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:46:34 PM PST
by
js1138
To: jennyp
I won't bother to respond.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:48:01 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: Dimensio
"Nothing in science is ever proven." ![](http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/224/224535/folders/164132/1273085USA-09.gif)
You mean we haven't proven the Speed of Light? Or that the Earth's Gravity attracts at 9.8m/ss?!
Goodness! < /mocking! >
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:48:46 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: WildTurkey; mlc9852
Why do yo distort. No one here has ever said that. In fact, many have supported the teaching of religions in a RELIGION class. But not in a science class. If the Big Bang theory might have been the genesis of the universe, should it be taught in science class?
or
If the theory that God might have been the genesis of the universe, should it be taught in science class?
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:50:31 PM PST
by
bondserv
(Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
To: narby
Are you saying Christians should be afraid of Newdow and his pathetic ilk?
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:52:06 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: Southack
You mean we haven't proven the Speed of Light? Or that the Earth's Gravity attracts at 9.8m/ss?!
Nope. Could be wrong. Or, at the very least, the fundamental principles behind the measurements could be wrong. Thus far the measurements have served us well, but science must always be ready to accept that their discoveries could be overturned tomorrow.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:52:15 PM PST
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Blurblogger
The sun HAD to be larger. It's on fire! The fire that creates the heat from our sun is burning something. Haven't read the whole thread yet, but I trust you've been taking a proper pounding for this post. I'll risk the following and hope it hasn't been anticipated already. (It's been on many another thread, of course.)
Nuclear fusion makes stars to shine.
Tropisms ma-ake the i-ivy twine!
Ray-ayleigh scattering makes skies so blue.
Testicular hormones are why I love you!
It's so sweet and sentimental I have to fight back the tears as I type. Hope you like it.
To: bondserv
If the theory that God might have been the genesis of the universe, should it be taught in science class?
Hypothetically, how could this "theory" be falsified?
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:52:38 PM PST
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Dimensio
"Nope. Could be wrong. Or, at the very least, the fundamental principles behind the measurements could be wrong." ![](http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/224/224535/folders/164132/1273085USA-09.gif)
You're grasping. I expect better from you. Do try harder next time.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:54:33 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Dimensio
If the Big Bang theory might have been the genesis of the universe, should it be taught in science class? Hypothetically, how could this "theory" be falsified?
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:55:13 PM PST
by
bondserv
(Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
To: Southack
Aww. I'm sorry that I didn't concede to your lame attempt to "prove" that science does something that it does not do.
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posted on
01/22/2005 4:56:26 PM PST
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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