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Mix of Quake Aid and Preaching Stirs Concern
NY Times ^ | January 22, 2005 | DAVID ROHDE

Posted on 01/22/2005 3:24:37 AM PST by Pharmboy

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This seems to me to be a sticky issue. First, it's the anti-Christian, anti-religious NY Times reporting it, so you don't really know how close to the truth the agenda-laden rag is getting here. Second, if the aid workers merely mention what their background is, so what? Active attempts at conversion would be something else again.

What do you Freepers think? Especially those ChristianMissionary Freepers? Is the Waco Church out of line?

1 posted on 01/22/2005 3:24:37 AM PST by Pharmboy
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Oh...one other thing: the picture they chose was a wonderful one and does not help make their case.


2 posted on 01/22/2005 3:25:54 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie because they have to)
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http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/s05010103.htm

Friday, January 21, 2005

FROM TEARS TO JOY:
"A report on Norm Nelson’s journey to Sri Lanka"

By Norm Nelson
President, Compassion Radio
Special Correspondent to ASSIST News Service

TRINCOMALEE, SRI LANKA (ANS)


3 posted on 01/22/2005 3:30:40 AM PST by Cindy
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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/1/212005d.asp

"Samaritan's Purse Organizes Massive Tsunami Aid Airlift"

By Allie Martin
January 21, 2005


4 posted on 01/22/2005 3:32:32 AM PST by Cindy
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Imagine that.

Americans from a church group preaching Christianity in a foreign land.

Well, I guess there is a first time for everything. ;)

5 posted on 01/22/2005 3:35:12 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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I must have missed the fine print. Did "Go into all the world and preach the Gospel" have an asterisk that said, "not valid in countries with a lot of Muslims?"


6 posted on 01/22/2005 3:42:15 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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Good grief. I'm glad these people get to know about some of the good people in the world that love Jesus and that of his teachings of which commands us to help other people. What is wrong with that? I'm sure if the adults didn't want to listen they could walk out with no strings attached. I'm sure the aid would continue.


7 posted on 01/22/2005 3:49:11 AM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322598/posts

"Summary of Israeli assistance to tsunami disaster victims in Sri Lanka, Thailand and Indonesia".
IMRA ^ | 1-17-05


Posted on 01/17/2005 11:31:06 AM PST by SJackson


"Summary of Israeli assistance to tsunami disaster victims in Sri Lanka, Thailand and Indonesia.
(Communicated by the Israel Foreign Ministry) 17 Jan 2005)"


8 posted on 01/22/2005 3:51:11 AM PST by Cindy
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You're right and ditto.


9 posted on 01/22/2005 3:51:45 AM PST by Cindy
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Right, here's their point: Jesus=danger.
More aid has been dispensed in the name of Jesus than any other name.
Deal with it NYT and other profane news sources. Pathetic.

Here's the flip side:
The Muslim relief agencies have been largely unresponsive and unsympathetic.
You know why?
Because they see the tsunami as just punishment from god for their evil ways. These people must have sinned.

10 posted on 01/22/2005 3:59:10 AM PST by ThirstyMan (Why is it, all the dead vote for Democrats?)
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I hope they're there first to provide aid and secondarily to evangelize.

I also hope the (rumored) reports of tying aid to belief are false. That would be extremely unethical, since they have gained entrance to these countries as aid providers, not as evangelizers.

Finally, there should be no mistaking that those who are out to evangelize are going to be met with forceful opposition (particularly in Indonesia, but really, no matter where they practice). Is there anyone who seriously would expect any other sort of reception?


11 posted on 01/22/2005 4:12:23 AM PST by angkor
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..so you don't really know how close to the truth the agenda-laden rag is getting here.

Eh. After reading the article I think I know EXACTLY how close to the truth it is.

I think the only thing that I would find objectionable would be if they were teaching that the only way to avoid another tsunami was to embrace Christ. It would be nice if they are working with the local churches as much as possible, as I'm sure many are doing (just not reported by the Slimes).
12 posted on 01/22/2005 4:16:03 AM PST by self_evident
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They should offer aid and nothing more.


13 posted on 01/22/2005 4:20:58 AM PST by hershey
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To: Pharmboy

Ichabod


14 posted on 01/22/2005 4:22:19 AM PST by ichabod1
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The worry is that some aid workers will end up butchered.


15 posted on 01/22/2005 4:23:23 AM PST by hershey
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" ... Deal with it NYT and other profane news sources. Pathetic ... "

These liberal propaganda machines pontificate to the big city masses.

The city dwellers that have become like the rats in Skinner's box.

What would one expect from a city that celebrates that there were only 528 murders through Dec. 7, 2004, with 11 of them in a 48 hour period in July?

In fact in 2001, the now deceased newspaper columnist Jack Newfield suggested that a homicide count below 600 would be worth a ticker tape parade.

Though Newfield did not write for the NYT, it shows the "rat in the box" mentality.

There will be no religion for these folks. ;)

16 posted on 01/22/2005 4:25:45 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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I suppose the anti-American NYT would prefer that these people continue to grow up in a culture steeped in the violence and inhumanity of Allah.

This church is doing what they're supposed to. This world war isn't going to be won with bullets and diplomacy anyway- the only hope is mass conversions to Christ. You must attack the enemy at it's root- the doctrine of Islam and jihad.


17 posted on 01/22/2005 4:26:20 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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The worry is that some aid workers will end up butchered.

Yeah, we should just cower in fear of Islam and keep our mouths shut like good Kafirs.

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18 posted on 01/22/2005 4:35:04 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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It would be hard to say, without being there first hand, to what extent people are actually being 'exploited'. People who merely take photos of the destroyed buildings and bodies and sell them to newspapers could be accused of doing the very same thing.

I guess the irony to me is that any time a group of Christians attempts to express Christ they are instantly tagged as being "evil" and "self-serving". However, the fact that other religious groups may participate in the same type of actions is never given a moments notice.

It is no secret that Muslims actively set up their recruiting stations to target orphans and social castoffs in the most poverty stricken regions of the world for the express purpose of conversion to Islam and a future induction into the terrorist hall of fame.

Shame on those "evil" Christians for reaching out with both physical and spiritual healing. Of course, if they just stayed home and built huge buildings and installed better stained glass windows they would really be really evil. The only way they could be "good" (according to the standards of the world media) would be to either donate their money directly to the Red Cross, the U.N. or become disciples of those same organizations.

19 posted on 01/22/2005 4:44:35 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves..........)
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"I'm sure if adults didn't want to listen they could walk out with no strings attached. I'm sure the aid would continue"...

Your absolutely right.

But some short-sighted folks seem to think that the muslim method of conversion to islam is to be preferred.(that is giving a victims the opportunity to convert to islam before you kill them.)
That's their idea of aid.

the Christian groups that have been in these muslim countries for years, who don't want to step on allah's toes, are fooling themselves.
This door that God has opened in Indonesia will be filled with His word because He has WILLED that some of these people will be saved...


20 posted on 01/22/2005 5:13:01 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Gettin' a PhD (Prettyhard on Democrats) at FR)
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