Posted on 01/21/2005 12:17:17 PM PST by gopwinsin04
The international community does not want George W. Bush's freedom and democracy, neither does it want its hearts and minds won over by shock and awe tatics, thank you very much.
Let's face it, if there was an election in the international community, George W. Bush might get elected as a member of a freak show, or perhaps a kitchen hand, handing out plastic turkeys in tents, but for the leadership of a country?
Perhaps in a handful of countries like Albania, which might first think about bank accounts rather than any notion of political leadership; but in the international community as a whole, the NO vote would be far in excess of 80% as is patently evident in numerous opinion polls.
George Bush can keep his freedom and democracy to himself and his own country. Nobody asked for his opinion abroad and no one is interested in his opinion abroad.
The very notion that George Bush can make a speech to begin his second and last term as president of the USA, referring to the international community, gives rise to the notion that he has an inflated sense of his own importance.
Who asked for his opinion outside of the USA and basically, who gives a penny d*mn what he believes in? It is his problem and the people who elected him.
Let George Bush sort out his own problems and leave the rest of the world alone. Nobody called him, nobody wants him and judging by his inaugural, neither do a substantial proportion of the American citizenry.
(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...
Russia's Ras-Putin
The mess in the Ukraine is directly attributable
to the leftover Communists still in power there
- and in Moscow.
John LeBoutillier - Dec. 1, 2004
Let us not fool ourselves: Russian President Vladimir Putin is and always was a die-hard Communist KGB agent.
To think otherwise would be naive.
And yet President George W. Bush said Putin “had a soul” when they first met four years ago.
Well, guess what? If Putin had a soul, then the KGB never would have hired him in the first place.
Putin and his repressive agents are desperate over what is happening today in next-door Ukraine; this is an out-and-out war between the Communist past and a Free future - and the bad guys are playing dirty in order to hold onto power.
To many of us the Battle in Kiev is of no seeming importance. We have enough to worry about here not to mention Iraq, Iran and other worldly problems. But the historic confrontation going on inside Ukraine will have much to do with our future, too.
If Putin - who is re-instating massive government control inside Russia - wins in Ukraine, he will be re-establishing the firmament of the old Soviet Empire: Russia and Ukraine combined equal almost 200 million people with vast agricultural and industrial capacity.
The Ukraine - bordering Poland and Hungary and other now-free former Soviet Communist satellites - is the buffer between Russia and the West. If it tilts away from Moscow, then Russia is truly ‘all alone.’ The idea of NATO reaching all the way to Russia’s borders is completely mind-boggling.
And Vladimir RAS-Putin must be shaking in his boots over the thought of all of Russia’s eastern satellites becoming part of the West.
This East vs. West fight is still the epic battle of our time: a war between individual liberty versus state control of our lives. And so far, the West has won all the battles since the break-up of the Soviet Union.
Yes, there are times when the two sides need to work together. The War Against Fundamentalist Islam is such a cause; Putin has been helpful to us because he, too, is under grave threat inside Russia from Muslims angered over the situation in Chechnya.
But let us not fool ourselves: Putin is not our friend and he is not on our side. And he is not on the side of freedom either.
His re-consolidation of state control of the Russian media and corporations and his removal of elected officials to be replaced by his own appointees smacks of Stalinist control.
Putin has also blatantly meddled in the internal politics of the Ukraine. All during this round of elections he actually campaigned along side and for the hard-line Prime Minister. Can you imagine a foreign leader coming into another country and actually campaigning for or against a candidate?
This is unprecedented.
And Putin has been greatly harmed by this typical act of Russian arrogance. He now has had to back-track and agree that new elections are needed in Ukraine. But how much do you want to bet that he and the corrupt outgoing Ukrainian President Kuchma are already planning on how to swipe yet another election?
The United States would be greatly mistaken to believe a word from Vladimir Putin - or from any other ‘former’ Communist official.
The entire ‘collapse’ of communism wasn’t quite what it seemed: almost all of the formerly communist governments of Eastern Europe are still having their government bureaucracies run by the very same communist apparatchicks as before - only now they say they are not communists.
It is the people of the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe who forced the commies to relinquish some of their power. But the commies were smart: rather than fight it until it led to a bloody confrontation and they were dragged out of their offices and shot ala the evil Ceaucescu family in Romania, they ‘joined’ it. And then they stayed in power.
Thus, the battle for Kiev today is indeed a battle between the good guys and the bad guys.
Make no mistake about it: Vladimir Putin is evil. And a liar. And corrupt.
Let us hope no American - a president or anyone else - thinks otherwise.
http://www.worldthreats.com/russia_former_ussr/Ras-Putin.htm
Becuase he's a socialist Brit living in Portugal!
No I have never wanted to go to Russia. The fact is I have always believed Putin to be a KGB communist, and I always knew the Bolsheviks were against democracy and I believe they are still the majority party in Russia.
I have never been to the moon either, but I now it is not made of cheese.
Ops4 God Bless America!
To: GarySpFc
No I have never wanted to go to Russia. The fact is I have always believed Putin to be a KGB communist, and I always knew the Bolsheviks were against democracy and I believe they are still the majority party in Russia.
I have never been to the moon either, but I now it is not made of cheese.
Ops4 God Bless America!
2nd time
Quuit making a case for commies like putin. Since you have realestate there and maybe dont want the price to go down, I could understand, but the case for Putin is quite clear to me, since I read real nes and for John Birch may he rest in peace.
Ops4 God Bless America!
We can also keep those billions of dollars that is spent everytime some disaster occurs. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.
Bump for Leftie Bait....
Cheers,
knews hound
This is just one life long socialist writing this article. I cannot believe that a lot of Russians think like this..
I'm with you on that one...I think that even though the USSR fell along time ago the deeply rooted control of the people never really left, I think that if control of the russian people was REALLY removed they would prosper in a big way.
If not interested, I wonder why Mr. Hinchey has tried so hard to diminish the President's goals ;-)
Pravda is a joke paper. You'll get a semi-serious article with lots of leftist BS (their sponsors lost 50% of their seat in parliment) and then get an article about some 6 million year old civilization just found.
You do realize that Pravda is owned by the Russian Communist party, the same party that went from 23% to 13% of the Duma seats inthe last elections. These are also the same guys that the MSM and the neocons tell us are now the "defenders" of Russian liberty and freedom. By the way, their median age is 55-60 and they were the majorty of those protesting a cut in welfare benefits.
Pravda is owned by the Russian Communist party.
The article is written by an American and the paper is owned by teh Russian Communist party, holder of 13% of the Duma seats, down 50% from last elections.
| Propaganda | Truth |
|---|---|
| Putin is a communist | Putin has implemented a flat tax of 13%, got rid of the Sales tax, set the corporate tax at 24%, cut the VAT in half, cut 1/3rd off the payroll tax. He has cut back on government size (shrinking government). He has put up 20% of Russian land for sale, the government is in the process of divesting of the remainder of its shares in various companies. There has been judicial reform to a sitting jury from a triumvirate of judges. There has also been a total reform of the banking center, in order to make it transparent. |
| Russia and China are allied to destroy the US | Russia has recently passed up China for an oil export route and choose instead Japan. China had to turn to Iran. Russia is rearming in Siberia, while she arms India with over 400 new tanks, a wing of new aircraft, two nuclear submarines and an aircraft carrier to intercept Chinese shipping. Russia has armed S.Korea with T-90s, armed Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam and Kazakhstan. Russia has attempted (by itself and through the US) to arm Taiwan also. The majority of weapons sold to China are aimed at the US navy, to which China will not be able to catch up for at least another generation. |
| Russia trains with China to destroy the US/West | This year alone, Russia has had joint maneuvers with Japan & S.Korea and then again with the US and UK off the Chinese Coast. |
| There is a Putin pandering mafia after me. | There is a dedicated group of Freepers who are out to expose this propagandist's lies and distortions, for which he has already been banned twice. |
| If you are against me you must be a (take your choice) A. communist, B. Putin lover, C. Russian Orthodox, D. Russian, E. Delusional, F. All of the Above | G. None of the Above. You must be a lover of truth and a hater of yellow journalism, empty conspiracy theories and plain propaganda. |
| The FSB/Russians are behind all the terrorism, including the theater and Beslan. | Only someone blind or shilling for Islam would on a continuous basis shift blame away from the terrorists and onto the victims. |
| Russia is giving Iran nukes. | Wrong. Russia is providing a civilian nuclear reactor with a contract to return spent rods. Do most of us agree with this? No, we are against this. Is this nuclear weapons technology? No. Our allie Pakistan with the assistance of our Most Valued Trading partner China are giving Iran missile and bomb technology. |
| Russia, and Putin in particular, hate Israel and wish to destroy it. | Wrong. Russia is Israel's second closest allie and trading partner and provides Israel with most of its oil and sells it weapons technology. |
| Putin is an Atheist, a hater of Christ. | Putin was baptized as a child, a regular church goer and has proven his faith on numerous occasions. |
| Russia supports Islamic terrorism. | Wrong. The Soviet Union supported socialist Arab revolutionaries/terrorists like the Palestinian People's Liberation Front. Modern day Russia does not support these groups. Our allie Saudi Arabia is the number one backer of all major Islamic groups. |
| Putin is a dictator | Putin was popularly elected with over 70% of the vote, a mandate. He functions within a constitution. True Parliament is dominated by pro-Putin right wing parties, also elected freely. The various right parties received over 83% of the vote. |
| Putin hates Bush. | Putin has been Bush's loudest cheerleader, louder and in front of Sharon, Blair or Berlusconi |
| Putin is moving to grab power through selecting governors. | The governors still have to pass the local Oblast's Parliament's review (that's province). Further, England, Italy and France all have the same systems. |
| Robert W. Lee another TapTheSource writers are credible. | Hardly, most like Mr. Lee, belong to the John Birch society, an organization steeped in conspiracy theories. |
| Yeltsin's declaration of open borders is a hollow one for Soviet citizens, who still cannot leave their country. Even travel outside the Soviet Union is heavily restricted, regardless of the Soviet republic | Typical propaganda leveled by TapTheSource or his articles. Anyone without a criminal warrant can leave at will, so long as the receiving nation will issue a Visa. |
| The Secret Soviets are still in charge and everything is part of their plan. | Lets take this lunacy to its full extent: The Soviets in their diabolic mysterious master plan allowed the Warsaw pact to collapse, the countries to open up and half of them to join NATO (I guess to corrupt NATO from within, regardless that it is those new NATO members that support America now and most of old NATO that is against America, lets ignore that fact). They allowed the Soviet Union itself to fall apart, some of which is also now part of NATO. They allowed the military to degrade, trade secrets to be sold or stolen, Chinese immigrants to come in mass into southern Siberia. Most of their bases to shut down. The economy to dive and only grow again under Capitalism freer then America's. They further allowed the young to not even know who Lenin was, for Islamics (who are all pawns of the Soviets, you see) to attack Russia on a daily basis. All this so that once America was the only apparent supper power, had its military in 120+ nations they could do what? Spring their surprise offensive? Materialize the great invasion army from outer space or outer Mongolia? Or marry enough American men to convert them (think body snatchers) into 5th Columnists and take over the US from inside? (of course that more people then ever voted Republican is also part of their master and evil plan). As a matter of fact, everything that happens that makes this theory look ludicrous for the past 15 years, well that's just part of the brilliance of their master plan. Oh and did we mention that they were obviously able to make Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr. into a bunch of idiots who could not see into their plan. So either this is all BS, or every American expert in the government and politician is an idiot and we as a nation are a bunch of idiots (except for the members of the John Birth Society, the only masters of the illuminate able to see this grand Jewish .. erg .. Russian conspiracy. |
| Russia is a dirt poor country. | Russia ranks, according to the CIA World FactBook GDP: purchasing power parity - $1.282 trillion (2003 est.), which places it just behind (now ahead) of Italy, the world's 7th largest economy. |
| Anna Politkovskaya is a reputable Russian journalist who is fighting Putin's facism. | Hardly. Anna Politkovskaya is an opportunist and a leftist. Having become a "political" refugee in the early 1990s, she now has FRENCH citizenship, writes for the socialist La Monde and the socialist Novaye Gazeta. She has staged several of her own "assassination" attempts to better her street credits while meeting constantly with Chechin and Al Quida terrorists and writing gushing love stories of them. Further, anyone who thinks that just because she hates Putin she is pro Bush, you couldn't be more wrong. She is in league with the devil incarnate, Soros, and hates Bush as much. A leftist is a leftist, but judge for yourself and read her views of Bush and the CONSERVATIVES of AMERICA. COWBOY FRIENDS (Praise for Moore) |
| Russia is a nation that only relies on oil. | A total lie, mostly spread by Wahhabi islamic Saudi Arabia and various NeoCons who favor US investment to Facist (and pro-Islamic) China. Read here about the state of the Russian economy that is now returning as a major industrial and IT power. Russia competes directly with India on IT and has had manufacturing climbing at an incredible rate. Financ e Ministry to work on debt payment schedule |
| Ion Mihai Pacepa is a credible source. | Ion Mihai Pacepa was a 2-Star General in the Romanian KGB. The man made a career of upholding the second worst dictatorship Cecescu, in the Warsaw Pact, second only to Stalin's SU. He spent some 30 years building this murderer's power base. Obviously Pacepa was smart enough to read the writing on the way and see the end coming. He "defected" and now makes money writing books and articles. He never stood trial for his evil crimes, after the Romanian Revolution, even as his former master was executed. |
| The dramatic rise of oil prices, in April-September 2002, gave Kremlin new chances for survival. | Only if one ignores the 6-7% growth rates of 200 & 2001 and the tripling of revenues from the 13% flat tax in 2001. |
| Russia greatly expanded military supplies to China; in January-August 2002, the two countries concluded weapons supply contracts | Moscow is in the business of selling weapons, second largest after America. Thus, when China, rich with American cash from the giant trade deficit, ordered weapons from Russia, Israel and France. Russia did not give away "supplies" but sold weapons systems. They also sold weapons systems to India, Indonesia, South Korea, Kazakhstan, Greece, Cyprus, Malaysia, Thailand and a host of other nations. |
| During August and the first half of September, Russia\x{2019}s Defense Ministry and Foreign Ministry made a series of tough anti-Georgian statements, using as a pretext "the presence of Chechen terrorists in the Pankisi Gorge" (a small valley in Georgia bordering Russia). In the beginning of September, Russian bombers made a strike in Georgian territory. | The Pankisi Gorge is an area about half the size of W.Virgina, covered in some of the highest mountains and some of the deepest valleys of the world. Mostly unpopulated and forested, it is used as a training base for Islamics. Recently those none existent islamics perpetrated Beslan and Baseyov himself stated or boasted that he is allied to President Sakaashvili, president of Georgia and a Soros puppet. The strikes were made at early dawn by SU-25s, an impossability for Russia, since to reach it, it's closest SU-25s would have to have taken off and flow at night. Being a second rate SU, after the SU-33s, it is a day light capable only fighter/bomber. Georgia, on the other hand, has built several SU-25s with Israeli assistance that have state of the art night capabilities. Furthermore, no hard proof of the bombing was ever presented by the Georgian government, only recycled photos from 5 years prior. |
| And on Sept. 11, Putin himself threatened Georgia with a heavy military strike if the Georgian government didn\x{2019}t meet Russia\x{2019}s demands. Again, Washington protested, again with no results. | This was in response to a demand that Georgia stop granting visas, protection and support to Chechins, Arabs and other Islamics in the Pankisi Gorge and was limited to Russia stepping into that territory itself. This, after Georgia's only and now formally independent TV Station reported the presence of the terrorists, embarressing then President Shevernadze. |
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