Posted on 01/21/2005 10:37:47 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash
Thanks! I've added the new list.
That would be pleasant, I agree.
How Far Will They Go?
It's often been observed that one reason why voter fraud is widespread is that it is hardly ever prosecuted. Jim Hoft, who has a site called Gateway Pundit, wrote to alert us to what could be a very important story, involving a Democratic office-holder in East St. Louis, Illinois, who allegedly tried to quash a voter fraud investigation by having a witness murdered:
Kelvin Ellis, a top administrator at East St. Louis City Hall, was indicted yesterday for plotting to kill a witness in the year long East St. Louis, Illinois federal vote fraud investigation. Ellis, 55, who once served a prison term after abusing a city post, is now the director of regulatory affairs, which puts him in charge of housing inspections. He also is a precinct committeeman with close ties to the community's Democratic Party leaders.
The indictments accuse Ellis of trying to have an unidentified witness killed. Court documents say he is a target of an ongoing vote fraud inquiry. He also is accused in a separate indictment of income tax evasion.
The investigation became public last year when more than a dozen subpoenas were delivered to city Democratic Party leaders after the November election.
According to one of Ellis' indictments, the investigation began at least a month earlier. A female witness told agents on Oct. 5 that Ellis, "had committed election fraud and other potential criminal offenses." Ellis learned the same day of the substance of what she had said, the indictment states.
In the following days, Ellis spoke repeatedly with an unidentified person, first discussing plans to discredit the witness, perhaps through a bogus drug sting, court documents say. The indictment includes excerpts of what appear to be recordings of these conversations between Ellis and the other person.
"I want her credibility destroyed," Ellis is reported to have said. She is "trying to destroy us. No telling what she's saying."
As the weeks passed, the conversations turned more sinister, with Ellis saying on Nov. 19, "I want her ... taken out, however we have to do it."
Ellis was convicted in 1990 of extortion.
I believe your numbers are inflated. Sure, I'm sure Dem voter fraud probably accounted for a few thousand in Florida 2000, but I seriously doubt as much as you say. Statistically, as far as turnout went, we were FAR better in 2004. So it is illogical to believe that our improved numbers are that large.
So, while I'm sure Bush probably would have improved by a few thousand in Illinois, maybe even a percent, I seriously, seriously doubt it was that close.
"Just another example of the racist, lily-white Bush Department of Justice picking on a couple of poor African-American upholders of law and order......."
"Just another example of the racist, lily-white Bush Department of Justice picking on a couple of poor African-American upholders of law and order......."
East SL has always been a dirty and corrupt place. In the mid '60s it was run by a boss named Buster Workman who exacted tribute from anyone running any kind of business. On the other side of the river it was an ex detective who took over the teamsters named Lou Shoulders that controlled things. You might remember the Bobby Greenglass kidnapping case where fully half of the ransome money turned up missing. Shoulders was the suspect as he was the cop in charge at the time. Both the cops and the mob worked together on both sides of the river.
Keeping my eye on this one!! Thanks for posting!
Its not as bad as it used to be. They cleaned it up for the gambling boats. But I still wouldn't got here at night. And that mayor and PC are both well known to be crooked as hell.
We got lost through there coming back from picking peaches about 6 years ago, we lived in a western suburb of St. Louis.
If that was cleaned up it scared the living daylights out of my husband who had all of our children duck down the whole way through the place.
BTW we got lost once in a bad part of town in Detroit once and it was not as scary as East St. Louis...LOL!
ALl the way back in the early sixties my parents would have my brother and me lay down when we would go through there on the way to visit mom's family. The last two Christmases when I went home to visit I've ridden the Metrolink, which is 3.00 for a 60 mile ride from the airport to Belleville. I've told the family that my mother would be having kittens if she were alive and knew some of the neighborhoods I'd been riding the train through. So maybe I'm just trying to whistle past the graveyard.
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