This is an excerpt from Kaku's latest book, Parallel Worlds. A speculative physics riff.
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To: RadioAstronomer; PatrickHenry
To: bd476
3 posted on
01/21/2005 8:47:40 AM PST by
bd476
(God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
To: snarks_when_bored
Interesting read. Falls into the "I guess we'll never know" category, but fun.
BTW, Michio Kaku is on every single show on the Discovery Science channel. I'm starting to think they just installed cameras in his home, like Ozzy Osbourne.
4 posted on
01/21/2005 8:51:49 AM PST by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: snarks_when_bored
To: snarks_when_bored; Tijeras_Slim; Physicist
In Norse mythology, Ragnarokthe fate of the godsbegins when the earth is caught in the vice-like grip of a bone-chilling freeze. The heavens themselves freeze over, as the gods perish in great battles with evil serpents and murderous wolves. Eternal darkness settles over the bleak, frozen land as the sun and moon are both devoured. Odin, the father of all gods, finally falls to his death, and time itself comes to a halt. I love a happy ending.
7 posted on
01/21/2005 9:00:32 AM PST by
martin_fierro
(Holder of an M.A. Degree in The Obvious)
To: snarks_when_bored
Just started reading his new book. He is still on book tour. It's an easy-to-read book, and so far seems to be good reporting. It is not as slick or authoratitive as Brian Green's "Fabric", but more of a piece of journalism. Kaku is not an ordinary journalist, of course, even though he did protest the Cassini of recent Titan fame, but he understands his string theory topic very well and explains very clearly. He has not learned the lessons of Korzybski and is already insane, but in a pleasant way.
10 posted on
01/21/2005 9:05:53 AM PST by
RightWhale
(Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
To: snarks_when_bored; Pride in the USA; Art Bell
11 posted on
01/21/2005 9:06:43 AM PST by
lonevoice
(Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
To: snarks_when_bored
To: snarks_when_bored
If one believes that life and civilization arise naturally, then there is no need to take extraordinary steps to (re)create or preserve them.
16 posted on
01/21/2005 9:10:00 AM PST by
Tax Government
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To: snarks_when_bored
I started skimming through this, wondering where I'd heard these ideas before: then it hit me. Two weeks ago, driving to the airport at 3 AM to catch a 6 AM flight, listening to Kaku being interviewed on this very topic by... Art Bell. Bell kept going off about Shadow People or some damned thing, and Kaku seemed to be going along with it.
To: snarks_when_bored
Sad how this faith--except based on more speculative theoretical math--is seen as more scientific than a Creator.
A major flaw in science, as I see it, is that there must not be any supernatural forces if they are judging or intelligent, but there can be supernatural forces if they are dumb. Problem is, even the Kaku's fantasies run into First Cause problems. That is even assuming the theoretical math that allows for the theory is even possibly true.
I deal with these fantasies in my website:
http://jdhighness.tripod.com
To: snarks_when_bored
"God vs. Satan", "Good(doing what is difficult) vs. Evil (doing what is easy)", "Electrons vs. Protons", "Evolution vs. Entropy" "String Theory", "Other Dimensions", "Dark Forces(73%) vs. Life", "Yin Yang Theory", etc.
Seems as though there are opposite forces everywhere at every level.
23 posted on
01/21/2005 9:16:09 AM PST by
kipita
(Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
To: snarks_when_bored
Yes, but how to escape a dying multiverse? Why is nobody thinking about THIS problem?
24 posted on
01/21/2005 9:16:47 AM PST by
beezdotcom
(I'm usually either right or wrong...)
To: snarks_when_bored
Not exactly a new idea, see:
Tau Zero
by Pol Anderson
1970
So9
To: snarks_when_bored
Probes sent through a black hole may settle some unsolved questions. Not going to happen. Between the tidal forces, time dilation and other facts, nothing worth sending will survive the trip.
To: snarks_when_bored
So when the US gets sick of being kicked around in this universe, we can build a spaceship, find a black hole, and leave. Sounds like a plan.
35 posted on
01/21/2005 9:30:43 AM PST by
hershey
To: snarks_when_bored
38 posted on
01/21/2005 9:33:07 AM PST by
Tallguy
To: snarks_when_bored
Although seemingly fantastic, this scenario is consistent with the known laws of physics and biology, and is within the capabilities of a Type III civilisation. There is nothing in the rules of science to prevent the regeneration of an advanced civilisation from the molecular level. For a dying civilisation trapped in a freezing universe, this may be the last hope. If there was only a gateway for atomic sized materials you can send INFORMATION and replicate your civilization, members, history and data on the other side as well.
39 posted on
01/21/2005 9:34:19 AM PST by
Centurion2000
(Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
To: snarks_when_bored
>>The universe is destined to end. Before it does, could an advanced civilisation escape via a "wormhole" into a parallel universe? <<
Christians call it the "Rapture."
40 posted on
01/21/2005 9:35:36 AM PST by
RobRoy
(I like you. You remind me of myself when I was young and stupid.)
To: snarks_when_bored
"the only strategy consistent with the laws of physics: leaving this universe."Option II: Make friends with the Creator of this universe. This can be thought of as making friends with an advanced civiliation that has and has demonstrated advanced technology including: creation of matter, instant weather control, instant physical healing, anti-gravity, etc....
42 posted on
01/21/2005 9:36:43 AM PST by
DannyTN
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