Transforming Islam into acceptable forms for the west is the main neoconservative project

here: www.aljazeerah.info via Islamicity ^ | Al-Jazeerah, January 21, 2005 | By Abdus Sattar Ghazali

[Eurotwit]

I found the first half of this piece slightly interesting.

[Uncle Miltie]

Correction: "Transforming Islam into acceptable non-murderous forms for the west is the main neoconservative project

[goldstategop]

ITS ALL PRESIDENT BUSH'S FAULT!

[Piquaboy]

They should be transformed into a pile of radioactive debris along with Mecca.

[thoughtomator]

Another way of saying the same thing, IMHO. "Extinct" is the only form of Islam that will ever be compatible with any other way of life.

[Dallas59]

It is all the fault of ISLAM

[headsonpikes]

Gee whiz, and here's me thinking that transforming socialism into acceptable forms for the west was the main neo-conservative project.

[Kenton]

Dear Islam:

The world isn't the same as before 9/11, when we all wore blinders about the nature of your religion. It is far from a "religion of peace", it is an aggressive, imperialistic religion, determined to force the rest of the world to submit to Islam. Muslims tell us that quite unapologetically, if not in those exact terms.

And we are finally listening. And more and more, people in the west are realizing that this earth isn't big enough for an imperialistic Islam and the rest of us.

Countries like the Netherlands, France and Scandinavian countries have reversed their suicidally multicultural tendencies, upsetting Islam's plans to dominate their democratic societies through immigration and a high birth rate.

America and it's allies are actively involved in smashing fundamentalist Muslim terror and spreading democracy across the face of the middle east. And we are winning.

Islam, you have but one choice: Become part of the 21st century world community; or continue for the time being to be the plague rats of humanity, and perish.

Adapt or die. There is no room for you in civilized society as things are.

[evets]

Allah is dead.

[Ashamed Canadian]

They've had 1300 years to adapt and grow. They've failed miserably and it's because of their beliefs. I don't think they're smart enough to adapt. We will win because we are smarter than them. That's just a fact. The western world is civilised, hell we are the ones going to space while they're still stoning 16 year old girls for minor 'crimes'.

[USF]

Ping.

[Fruitbat]

I'm curious why they didn't take the same approach with the KKK by trying to turn them into an "acceptible form" as well. The hatred is equal, just partially redirected. They both share their hatred of Jews in spades.

I wonder how the KKK and muslim leaders would come to terms in a locked room for 24.

[dotnetfellow]

The term "neoconservative" is one I have heard bandied about a bit, but I am unclear of its meaning and in what context it is properly used.

Does anyone else have a definition of this term? I have looked it up in the dictionary and it is defined as a movement that arose in opposition to liberalism.

But this definition also seems loaded and I was wondering if anyone here had any other insights into this word - neoconservative or neocon.


Thanks.

[conservativecorner]

Our purpose is nothing more than letting Islam know that it's convert or die philosophy will be defeated. Acceptable to us would be letting people in Islamic countries worship as they please including the Jews without persecution, an end to calling for the destruction of Israel, the cessation of terrorism in the name of Allah, and lastly the end of WMD programs by Islamic states. We can work on the democracy thingy after these goals are accomplished.

[Kerfuffle]

Some good points here on dealing with different tenets of Islam. Let's face it... a religion with over 1 billion adherents ain't going away any time soon.

[montag813]

There is no such thing as a "safe" version of Islam.

[steve-b]

According to the Study modernists believe in the historicity of Islam, i.e., that Islam as it was practiced in the days of the Prophet reflected eternal truths as well as historical circumstances that were appropriate to that time but are no longer valid. They also believe that Islam is responsible for the underdevelopment of the Muslims because prosperity and progress depends on modernity and democracy.

Well, DUH!

[USF]

Re: Neocons, check out this thread:

"Idealism and Its Discontents, Thinking on the neoconservative slur."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1325403/posts

[atlaw]

They should be transformed into a pile of radioactive debris along with Mecca.

Another way of saying the same thing, IMHO. "Extinct" is the only form of Islam that will ever be compatible with any other way of life.

Interesting. So I take it both of you disagree with the stated goals of the US in Iraq.

[thoughtomator]

Nope. I see it as a necessary step, what is politically possible at this time. Islamic terror will not stop, and as more and more nations are affected, the prohibitions against killing large masses of people will evaporate in the face of the us-or-them existential threat that is inherent to Islam.