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Prosecuting The Victim
www.gunowners.org ^ | Jan. 2005 | Larry Pratt

Posted on 01/21/2005 4:33:15 AM PST by B4Ranch

Prosecuting The Victim

Bill and Kathy Hosack had no premonition on a February morning in 2004 that their entire world would come crashing down upon them.

Hosack had been coroner of Coos County, Oregon, until his retirement in 2004, and a pathologist in a local hospital. He had put four children through college and graduate school on his salary.

Out of the blue, a day in the country turned into a nightmare of violence. Hosoack's rural property was invaded by four angry young men. Hosack's sister (Candace Upchurch), his nephew (Sam Upchurch), and his friend (Don Wyatt) had inadvertently splashed the four as they drove up the mountain dirt road.

The four assailants went looking for a fight and tracked down Upchurch and Wyatt on the edge of Hosack's property. Josh Andrade, 19, attacked Wyatt, 54, and began beating him -- breaking several bones. Not surprisingly, Andrade has a record of prior assaults.

Hosack, 63 at the time, came upon the scene in response to the ruckus, but he was unable to disengage Andrade orally. Andrade was pummeling Wyatt and trying to drown him. At this point, Hosack took out his .45 pistol and fired two warning shots. Andrade was probably on drugs because, rather than backing off, he charged Hosack.

Rather than shoot the assailant, Hosack struck him with the butt of the gun (actually, Andrade may have struck Hosack's gun as he charged), causing a round to discharge which hit Justus Cloud, 22, who was standing nearby. Cloud has a record of several prior convictions and was wanted at the time of the attack for failure to appear in court on a drug charge.

Wyatt commented that had it not been for Hosack's intervention, he would have been dead. Cloud tested positive for several drugs, but Andrade, strangely, was never tested -- even though Andrade was in violation of probation on drug charges at the time of his assault. Andrade was found to be drunk when his blood was tested. In addition to the beating from Andrade, Wyatt saw another of the assailants coming at him with a knife.

Wyatt called in a 911 report, fearing that the four assailants would make good on their threat to return -- not what one would expect of a group where one of their number had been shot. Anger sustained by drugs may well have been responsible for the threats.

While this initial threat was over, Wyatt, unfortunately, did not report that one of the assailants had been shot.

After over an hour, Hosack, his nerves quite rattled, drove his wife and mother home to Coos Bay. They passed a police car on the way down the mountain, but had no way to know that the cops were interviewing the assailants and forming an initial impression that the assailants were the victims -- an opinion the authorities never changed.

Hosack, reacting as do many victims of assault, drank some alcohol after returning home. He was still rattled when a state trooper came to his door and interviewed him. It was then that Hosack said that he had been drinking -- without qualifying that he had not been drinking before the attack. (Is it OK to drink as long as one knows that there will be no attack?)

Hosack's behavior is quite typical of victims suffering post-traumatic stress. Amazingly, the police wanted to test Dr. Hosack's blood alcohol, but never tested two of the four assailants. Since the authorities already "knew" that the senior citizens were the assailants, they only looked for evidence to convict the victims.

Anti-self defense Judge Richard Mickelson heard the case and found Hosack guilty of recklessly shooting Cloud. Mickelson said that Hosack had had time to "safe" the .45 during the attack. He based that opinion on the assailant's testimony and on the judge's own assumptions as to where the spent casings were located.

Hosack had fired two rounds in the air, then had accidentally discharged a third round after hitting his attacker on the head. Naturally, the casings were in two different areas. The judge assumed that some period of time had passed during which Hosack had moved and would have had time to put the .45 on safety.

One has to wonder at the degree of expertise Judge Mickelson has with guns since he referred to the .45 as a semi-automatic revolver. Revolvers, of course, do not discharge spent casings. Semi-auto pistols eject casings all over the place, even when the gun is fired at the same target at a range. This is especially true if two rounds are fired in the air followed right away by an accidental discharge which has the gun in another position.

Mickelson then concluded that Hosack had taken a gun to a fist fight -- a fist fight conducted by a group of young men who may all have been on drugs, but only Cloud had been tested. Evidently older men should disregard the danger to themselves and their womenfolk and be sporting enough to duke it out with assailants a third of their age. For the offense of inappropriate force -- used irresponsibly (according to the judge's expert opinion about firearms) -- Hosack was sentenced to 30 days in jail, three years probation, loss of his right to own a gun, assessed $20,000 in restitution to Cloud and fined $5,000.

At sentencing the judge opined that Wyatt, an ex-longshoreman, should be ashamed of himself to have allowed a smaller man (Andrade) beat him up. Would the judge have had the same opinion about a taller woman raped by a shorter man?

Happily, Hosack is retired, because he is likely to lose his medical license which would have cost him his job. The legal expenses have wiped out his meager savings (remember, he bore four sets of costly college tuitions). Hosack faces retirement broke, unable to practice his profession -- and a lawsuit from Cloud who has subsequently been arrested since the assault.

Judge Mickelson's decision was wildly unjust, and the personal harm to Dr. Hosack has been devastating. All of this because the Judge had a prejudice against self defense with a gun, and a willingness to believe assailants who invaded another's property and who attacked older people with no provocation. Incredibly, these assailants were untested for drugs even though there was plenty of reason to do so.

Coos County District Attorney, Paul Burgett, is just as politically correct. In other cases, he chose not to prosecute two police officers for shooting a man with one arm in a sling and another man for brandishing a marking pen. The D.A. believed the cops' lethal action was justifiable, but Hosack's non-lethal action was felonious. Double standard anyone?

For those wishing to communicate with Judge Richard Mickelson and District Attorney Paul Burgett can do so as follows:

Judge Richard K. Mickelson Curry County Courthouse PO Box H Gold Beach, OR 97444

District Attorney Paul Burgett 250 North Baxter Street Coquille, OR 97423 541-396-3121

For those wishing to defray the costs of Dr. Hosack's appeal, tax-deductible donations may be sent to Gun Owners Foundation at 8001 Forbes Place, Springfield, VA 22151.

Please be sure to write "Dr. Hosack" in the memo line if sending a check.


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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
More proof that, in many cases, the best method is to shoot, shovel and shut up.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

21 posted on 01/21/2005 6:13:01 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: B4Ranch
Warning shots? Bah, two to the thug would have been the proper action.

Other than that, I'm sorry to hear he's had legal problems.

22 posted on 01/21/2005 6:18:05 AM PST by csvset
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To: Blue Jays; Joe Brower
Hi All-

NEVER, EVER fire warning shots! They waste ammunition and could result in a jam at a critical moment.

The elderly folks in this story should have contacted the police as soon as possible after the fight. They should have advised that they were still frightened for their lives because the ruffians promised more revengeful violence upon their return. When two sides of a story can be told, it is strategically superior to be the first party to contact the authorities.

Secondly, they should have also requested immediate assistance from an ambulance because one of the attackers may have been hit during a struggle for the firearm. This would have illustrated their compassion for fellow man.

Alcohol consumption? The correct choice of beverage would have been water, soda, juice, milk, or chamomile tea to calm rattled nerves. Booze is a lousy selection. FReepmail me if you want to hear the joke about the priest, the rabbi, the automobile wreck, and the shared bottle of wine... Joe Brower, can I assume you forgot the [/sarcasm] tag on your shoot, shovel, and shut-up post? A quadruple homicide would hardly solve their problem... We agree on most matters, so I'm guessing you missed that detail.

~ Blue Jays ~

23 posted on 01/21/2005 6:53:29 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

Nice summation of appropriate actions.


24 posted on 01/21/2005 7:24:41 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Joe Brower

Justice?


25 posted on 01/21/2005 7:28:01 AM PST by blackie
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To: B4Ranch

Is Coos County the new location of the big shooting school from Texas? (Thunder Ranch?)


26 posted on 01/21/2005 7:36:24 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Joe Brower
in many cases, the best method is to shoot, shovel and shut up

Maybe. But in this case of self-defense the best method was to be the first on the phone to call the police.

The judge is a jerk and should be ashamed of himself, but Dr. Hosack did himself great legal harm by assuming a wounded man would simply disappear without either a complaint or a plan for revenge. Besides, he had good witnesses and physical evidence to the danger he and his family were up against and should have been the first one demanding an investigation and arrest.

Even so, this was an outrageous decision and demonstrates a biased Judge and DA looking for the wrong crime at an actual crime scene, thereby obviously convicting the innocent.

These "public servants" need to be impeached for total incompetence.

27 posted on 01/21/2005 7:37:51 AM PST by Gritty ("Today, people fear entering politics if they promote moral virtue in public life"-Ezra Lavant)
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To: B4Ranch
Until the Americans say enough is enough... their masters will carry on with their liberal agenda.
28 posted on 01/21/2005 7:48:56 AM PST by pau1f0rd (a British citizen)
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To: B4Ranch

forgot the </sarcasm> tag!


29 posted on 01/21/2005 7:49:59 AM PST by pau1f0rd (a British citizen)
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To: marktwain
Hi MarkTwain-

Thanks for the kind words. The fact-of-the-matter is that these folks made a whole bunch of errors, and we shouldn't give them a "free pass" just because they are lawful gunowners. Their peculiar actions led to the completely unfortunate legal nightmare that followed.

For example, if the victims were "driving down a mountain" to take his parent home, they should have approached that first officer with a comment like,

"Thank goodness you're here! Those maniacs are still running around up in the woods. I'm Bill Hosack and this is Don Wyatt, we're the people who called 9-1-1 when we were attacked earlier...I'm taking my mother to her home in Coos Bay, but I'll be back within an hour. Here is my cellular number blah, blah, blah."

Hopefully the absurd felonies and outrageous monetary penalties will be tossed on appeal, but they must also learn how to comport themselves as responsible gunowners.

~ Blue Jays ~

30 posted on 01/21/2005 7:50:22 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: goldstategop

This is just sick. Twenty years ago this wouldn't have happened. We have police and prosecutors that look for any opportunity to charge someone for a "gun crime".

I called the Sheriff's department in Cheatham County Tennessee many years ago after confronting an armed man on my property in rural Cheatham county. The man was hunting and tried to tell me that it was HIS property. He swung his gun in my direction and I pulled my carry weapon out and trained it on him whereupon he took off. The Sheriff told me he would be right out and begged me please not to shoot the guy. When the Sheriff arrived he didn't raise a squawk about me being armed or try to arrest me. That's the way it should be.


31 posted on 01/21/2005 7:50:51 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Gritty
I agree. Each event has to be evaluated in its own merits. There's only so much one can do to prepare for anything like this happening, and part of that preparation is, unfortunately, knowing who your local prosecutors and judges are and their tendencies. As this case proves, all one needs is one tyrannical judge and all the facts, witnesses, etc. go right out the window.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

32 posted on 01/21/2005 7:53:26 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: B4Ranch

Going into pistol-whip mode was a huge mistake.


33 posted on 01/21/2005 7:53:46 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Blue Jays
"A quadruple homicide would hardly solve their problem"

How not? Please elaborate.

35 posted on 01/21/2005 7:55:23 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: B4Ranch

Andrade was trying to drown Wyatt?? Hossack should have shot Andrade dead - because he had reason to fear for Wyatt's life - case closed.


36 posted on 01/21/2005 8:07:32 AM PST by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: Joe Brower
Hi Joe-

"...How not? Please elaborate..."

If one thug gets shot and then the other three stop attacking, lay down, and interlace their fingers behind their heads on command...there is no reason to kill them followed by the shoveling and shutting-up thing.

If the other thugs continue to fight after the first one was shot, well then continued shooting (and even speedy reloads) is absolutely in order.

~ Blue Jays ~

37 posted on 01/21/2005 8:11:37 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Gritty

I think this whole story is a situation of a guy that felt safer with his .45 on him, but never expected to need it, and didn't have a plan in his head in case he ever did. This is a man that spent his entire working life saving people and now he is confronted with the possibility that he might actually have to shoot somebody, I can understand why he fired warning shots. I can't agree with it, but I can see where he was coming from. Even when the guy attacked him, he couldn't bring himself to shoot. This goes to show that training for your mind as well as for your triggerfinger is so so important. People go get themselves a permit and think "there, now I can shoot somebody", when the reality is that unless you've conditioned your mind to separate the bad guy from the human, chances are that, especially after a life time of helping people get better, even the bad guys, you're not going to be able to shoot. It's a tough situation. PTSD also probably played a very big role in his actions after the fact as well. Sounds to me like he panicked.

I feel for the guy. I think that judge should probably be disrobed and flogged, as well as his handy little sidekick prosecutor buddy.


38 posted on 01/21/2005 8:13:25 AM PST by SASsySIGster (The best part of being a mom is they have to eat it, no matter how gross it turned out.)
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To: Blue Jays
OK, I agree with that. Of course, depending on the goblins, you may have to be watching your back for the rest of your days. Like I said to Gritty, each situation has to be evaluated seperately. And things like this offer very few good choices, if any. Unfortunately.
39 posted on 01/21/2005 8:17:55 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: marktwain

One of many reasons to carry a pistol.


40 posted on 01/21/2005 8:19:52 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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