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Morris: Bush Speech Best Since JFK's
NewsMax.com ^ | 1/21/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 01/21/2005 4:27:12 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 01/21/2005 4:28:09 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: saveliberty

That was worrisome...Mara and Mort being so positive about the speech. Alarm bells went off.


41 posted on 01/21/2005 8:25:41 AM PST by hershey
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To: Huck

I agree! I almost fell out of my chair when they were talking about it so glowingly.


42 posted on 01/21/2005 8:34:28 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: hershey

:) Caution is appropriate, but sometimes we are not at cross purposes. That's the fatal error that the Democrats continue to make.

Conservatives make the point that liberty (as defined by limiting the rights and responsibilities of government) is not only a political stabilizer, but a main avenue to mass prosperity.

Liberals and Middleoftheroaders have made the point that more government creates more liberty and that money brings prosperity and prosperity will trigger enlightenment and thus liberty.

In each case, both sides want liberty and prosperity. We define liberty differently and have vigorous disagreement about how to get there.

I think the problem the Left has is that it makes bad assumptions about what drives the Right.

I would not like to make the same mistake.


43 posted on 01/21/2005 8:42:47 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: dimmer-rats stealvotes

Thank you for the kind words.

I agree with you about her too.


44 posted on 01/21/2005 8:44:10 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: saveliberty
It is completely valid to question how W will live up to the contents of the speech.

I have been asking how we will live up to the contents of his speech.

I think a good portion of the speech was directed at those who will be coming of age soon and will be leaders 10 - 20 years from now. Particularly the challages to self governance and character.

Maybe that's what Peggy didn't get. He wasn't talking to the current crop, he was talking to the next.

Becki

45 posted on 01/21/2005 9:41:08 AM PST by Becki (Watch and pray!)
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To: hershey
The media had the speech in advance but were prohibited from discussing it until AFTER the speech was given.

When I was listening I thought that it will be an excellent read.....and it was.

Everyone in the media had no doubt read it before it was delivered.

46 posted on 01/21/2005 9:51:48 AM PST by OldFriend (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: dimmer-rats stealvotes

I think you hit on something - that Noonan wanted to write for the President.

Now in retrospect, I wonder if the reason she took a "sabbatical" from WSJ online was to make herself "available" to the President and he never called.

I was struck by her first comments on FNC with Brit Hume when she really couldn't seem to digest the speech and didn't have any comment and I think said something to the effect that she needed to think it over.

Obviously on further reflection, she decided she didn't like what she heard and found the will to say that, but only much later in the day. Certainly Mort Kondracke, Fred Barnes and Bill Cristol heaped immediate praise on the President and his main speechwriter, and her only comments were with respect to how early the President started working on the speech - the day after the election.

"Grating" and "over the top" were certainly not the assessments I expected from Peggy. She does sound a little bitter, doesn't she?


47 posted on 01/21/2005 10:32:28 AM PST by TruthNtegrity
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To: saveliberty
I agree! I almost fell out of my chair when they were talking about it so glowingly.

Maybe they're on the White House payroll. Piece rate. $50 for every nice thing they say about the speech. Or else maybe it was a speech that appeals to squishy libs.

48 posted on 01/21/2005 10:37:45 AM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: Russ

"Of all the female conservative commentators I have always liked Peggy Noonan the least. She comes down somewhere between grating and smarmy and always seems to lean toward the melodramatic. I didn't hear her comments yesterday because I turned the channel when I saw her on the screen. She's no Ann Coulter..."

Well said! You put your finger on why she is so annoying....I'd also felt like I should like her since she is a conservative writer, but as you said, she IS melodramatic and smarmy!! Thanks!


49 posted on 01/21/2005 10:44:29 AM PST by Primetimedonna
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To: Huck

I disagree with their politics, but I like and respect Mara and Mort.


50 posted on 01/21/2005 12:31:08 PM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: newagepublius

Right you are, Morris is a process guy, a tactician, not a policy maker. Watching him over the last year, I have seen a man looking to rehabilitate himself and be taken as a serious, i.e. hireable, campaign man. Much closer in that respect to, say Carville than Dean.

Not to be dismissed. Morris, as a process man, has a better track record than Bob Shrum and and Brazille combined, he actually works for winners.


51 posted on 01/21/2005 12:48:06 PM PST by barkeep
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