[Darkwolf377]

I liked the woman who sang that one song but would have prefered her taking on something more interesting.

[dano1]

I somewhat agree with Noonan. There are times when I think the Bush people are mistaken with their rhetoric of "spreading freedom". For example the President said in his speech:
"Yet because we have acted in the great liberating tradition of this nation, tens of millions have achieved their freedom." as if to imply that our history is about liberating other people.

I felt the same way listening to the Republican convention when at times this "freedom spreading" rhetoric was also espoused from the podium.

IMHO, if we are in Iraq because it's a breeding ground for problems for us, that makes sense to me. If we are there because of some idealistic notion that the Iraqis should be free, that does not make sense. They have to do that for themselves. We can't do it for them.

On the other hand W did say some things I liked in his speech, such as:
"This is not primarily the task of arms, though we will defend ourselves and our friends by force of arms when necessary. "

and I liked the line about how "Liberty will come to those who love it." That I think is true and well said.