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To: ohioWfan
>>>>>Bringing in 'body bags' to bolster your argument against the President is frighteningly reminiscent of the wailing of the left in their faux concern for our troops.<<<<<<

We have had over 1300 killed in Iraq, and over 10,000 wounded. For an idea of what the latter can mean, I refer you to the Fred Reed article I posted last night. We lost these lives in an effort to find weapons that did not exist and are now losing them in an effort to impose democracy in an area of the world that has never had it, where popular sovereignty will inevitably mean Islamic rule. I had hoped Bush had learned from his mistakes. Apparently not.

>>>>>>>>You will have to go a long way to convince me now, that you are not a phony.

Frankly, I don't care if you think I'm a "phony" or not. Bush is not a conservative, and if he acts on the overblown rhetoric from his Second Inaugural, there'll sadly be many more Americans coming home in body bags.

717 posted on 01/22/2005 12:33:35 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Thorin
We lost these lives in an effort to find weapons that did not exist and are now losing them in an effort to impose democracy in an area of the world that has never had it, where popular sovereignty will inevitably mean Islamic rule. I had hoped Bush had learned from his mistakes. Apparently not.

Number ONE........you once again echo the rhetoric of the left.........WMD were thought to be in Iraq by everyone, not just the President, and were only one of many reasons given for going there. We could argue forever about this subject, but it is not the topic of the thread.

Number TWO........why is it that you think this democracy in Iraq will be 'imposed?' Don't you know anything about what's going on over there, about how much the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a free society?

Number THREE.........what is it about the people of the Middle East that you believe is innately different (or perhaps inferior) to us, that they cannot successfully live in a democracy?

You sound very much like the academic elitist left, once again. It is THEY who believe that those in the Middle East are not smart enough/good enough to successfully rule themselves in a democracy.

Perhaps President Bush hasn't learned from his 'mistakes' (another DNC talking point), because that's not what his policies are.

Nice talking with you, Thorin. I still don't think you're a conservative, but you at least have been polite.......so thanks.

730 posted on 01/22/2005 2:00:08 PM PST by ohioWfan (Have you PRAYED for your President today?)
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