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To: Miss Marple

I'll take a look and then I'm going to watch HGTV or TLC to get away from these types.

I will take this chance to say I watched a few minutes of Hardball (that is what drove me to the decorating channels).

Matthews was describing President Bush and the speech in terms like messianic, Joan of Arc "hearing voices, going to war all over the world because he thinks God has told him to.

His guests were two men: Some author who prattled and John Meecham from Newsweek who demonstrated why I have formed a high opinion of him.

Meecham disagreed with Matthews' warmonger characterization and said he'd describe the speech's theme as "liberty".

Chris went into one of his stream of consciousness rants ending with "what other president has ever said this?" and Meecham pointed to Kennedy (and cited the salient quote) and Chris got VERY snippy with Meecham and blustered a bit finally coming up with "Just because Kennedy said it doesn't make it so" (ignoring that the point wasn't the merits of the sentiment but that another citation had been offered to counter his earlier contention that President Bush had gone where no President had gone before).

So just look at what lengths some will go to in their antipathy to President Bush. Chris Matthews dissing JFK! (the original)

At any rate, at the first commercial I had heard enough and watched Trading Spaces. LOL

(Oh, after typing that I finally looked at Fox and missed the Frum segment. Probably just as well.)


538 posted on 01/21/2005 5:15:15 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Well, Frum acted like he had some secret way of reading deep hidden meanings. Very bizarre.

On the plus side, Benjamin Netanyahu was just on and he loved the speech. Given the choice, I believe I will stick with Netenyahu, someone who has actual experience, rather than the opinions of two speechwriters.

539 posted on 01/21/2005 5:28:20 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: cyncooper
His guests were two men: Some author who prattled and John Meecham from Newsweek who demonstrated why I have formed a high opinion of him.

I saw that also .. and was yelling "You Moron" at the TV

(IMO) According to Chrissy thinking .. FDR should not have gone into WWII and would have allowed Hitler to concord Europe

Later on Debra Orin (sp?) was on and she was really good and explained to Chrissy that he's expecting a perfect war with perfect people and perfect countries and how he thinks everything should go 100% as planned

She went on to basically tellhim that he was being unrealistic

She handled him really well

550 posted on 01/21/2005 7:27:28 PM PST by Mo1 (Liberty will come to those who love it)
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To: cyncooper
Chris went into one of his stream of consciousness rants ending with "what other president has ever said this?" and Meecham pointed to Kennedy (and cited the salient quote) and Chris got VERY snippy with Meecham

Yesterday a lib relative was complaining to me about Bush's speech and who's going to pay for this

I sent a long reply .. and in it I asked him what he thought of this line

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty"

It's a line from JFK's ingra. speech

I haven't rec'd a response back yet from this relative

551 posted on 01/21/2005 7:34:10 PM PST by Mo1 (Liberty will come to those who love it)
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