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To: RWR8189

I don't believe that Peggy Noonan's comments come from envy--but then, how would I know? And how would anyone? I don't think criticizing Noonan for motivations she may have is constructive.

I disagree with Peggy Noonan's assertion that there was too much "God" in the president's speech. I do, however, agree that ending tyranny is impossible, and so is establishing heaven on earth. Any attempt to make heaven here will inevitably end in failure--if we're lucky, only failure. Communism was preached as establishing Utopia; it ended in oppression and gulags. (And no, I'm not suggesting that this will be the result of President Bush's policy.)

There were a lot of things I liked about this speech, and two I didn't. The first is the exaltation of liberty, as if it is the best and ultimate cure for the world's problems. I think, personally, that the world's problems come because people are bad--the best people have a little sin in them, and the worst are like Adolf Hitler--and democracy cannot make people good. People can make democracies good; democracies can put down tyrants, and democracies can install tyrants. The Nazis were put in power by "the people". The goodness or badness of a democracy depends on the goodness or badness of a majority of its people. The idea that a government determined by the people is, ipso facto, a good government disturbed me, as did the idea of Freedom As Savior Of The World.

The second thing I disliked about the speech was the reference to the Koran: "the truths of Sinai, the Sermon on the Mount, the words of the Koran." How about these words of the Koran: "Slay the enemy wherever you find him" (Surah 9:92)? Doesn't this Islamic terrorism spring from the fact that some people pay a little too much attention to the words of the Koran? And what's with lumping Moses, Jesus Christ, and Mohammed together? Mohammed was a murderer who (talk about child-brides) married a six-year-old; is he really on the same level as Christ? Does Mohammed rank with Christ? Is the Koran just as creditable as the Bible? Am I wrong in thinking that the president's formulation puts Christianity and Islam (Christ and Mohammed, the Bible and the Koran) on the same level?

President Bush claims to be a Christian, and I believe him. But it puzzles me why he keeps on praising a religion that explicitly denies Jesus Christ.


197 posted on 01/21/2005 1:03:35 AM PST by Irish Rose
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To: Irish Rose
I don't think criticizing Noonan for motivations she may have is constructive.

I completely agree. Just Like I think Noonan was off track to characterize the choice of music as "defensive". That seems mighty presumptuous and based on less substance than the charges being made about her being jealous (which I have stated I don't agree with).

330 posted on 01/21/2005 7:46:09 AM PST by cyncooper
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