"Again I say this respectfully, but if the GOP adopts the a morality jihad agenda, then the party will get about 20% of the vote rather than hovering around 50%."
You got to be kidding right? Clinton won because Christian conservatives stayed home. Wake up its been reported everywhere that this was the case. Bush won this time because Christian God Fearing Conservatives went out and voted for him. The left had the media, hollywood and almost all of the 527c money pushing their agenda. They came out big too. If it wasnt for us "moral" conservatives you would be watching Kerry as pres. This is not made up just the facts - I believed in fairy tales when I was a child too, but its now time for you to grow up and accept the fact that Values are the issue electing Republicans today. If they go the other way you WILL definitely see conservatives looking for other parties/candidates that hold their beliefs.
"Again I say this respectfully, but if the GOP adopts the a morality jihad agenda, then the party will get about 20% of the vote rather than hovering around 50%."Oh, he's not kidding at all. I know a lot of people who voted for Bush who enjoy "vulgar" culture. They voted for him because of security and because they don't trust the Democrats. If the GOP made a big push for "decency", they'd have been more likely to hold their nose and vote for Kerry. Christian conservatives will not. So those "swing" votes effectively count double. That's reality.You got to be kidding right? Clinton won because Christian conservatives stayed home. Wake up its been reported everywhere that this was the case. Bush won this time because Christian God Fearing Conservatives went out and voted for him. The left had the media, hollywood and almost all of the 527c money pushing their agenda. They came out big too. If it wasnt for us "moral" conservatives you would be watching Kerry as pres. This is not made up just the facts - I believed in fairy tales when I was a child too, but its now time for you to grow up and accept the fact that Values are the issue electing Republicans today. If they go the other way you WILL definitely see conservatives looking for other parties/candidates that hold their beliefs.
Clinton won because he faced candidates who didn't seem to care. Its ironic that the "Christian Conservatives" stayed home if they did. The GOP platforms were far more culturally conservative in 1992 and 1996 than they were in 1980 or 1984.
Reagan basically blew off the whole "moral majority" agenda, and there's no doubt that "indecency" was far more accepted in 1988 than it was in 1979, particularly in broadcasting. His results speak for themselves.
Also look at what happened in 1993 and 1994 in New York and New Jersey. GOP candidates backed by Howard Stern won every race.
-Eric
Huh? Clinton was specifically targeted by Christian conservatives - especially in 1996. Who told you that they stayed home?
Michael Barrone has shown that Christian conservatives voted in the same numbers that they did in 2000 so they didn't "elect GWB".
While most conservatives are also Christian, most don't consider themselves "Christian Conservatives" (aka Theocons) that vote on religious grounds. If that wasn't the case, why did Keyes get 17% of the vote in a state where Bush got over 40%? Keyes made hardcore Christian values the centerpiece of his campaign and he was running against a very liberal, secular candidate. Unless these theocons just didn't vote for Keyes because he is black, they must not exist in any great numbers.
The fact is that Theocons can't even be counted on to show up. Someone posted in one of the Kid Rock threads that Rove doesn't even consider them likely voters.
The Theocons chase away all of the fiscal conservatives and then don't show up to vote because news is released of Bush's DUI 30 years ago.
BTW, what did Theocons have against GHWB and Bob Dole that made them not show up to defeat Clinton in 92 and 96?