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New York Times gets the Bum Rush at Walter Reed

Posted on 01/19/2005 11:11:26 AM PST by wtc911

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To: Emmett McCarthy
Ft Leavenworth USED to be an open post and it had a hospital. In theory, you could simply drive up and if you knew which door to enter, you could go directly to the elevator and get off on a patient floor. But you would be stopped there because you would not be wearing a visitor's badge.

I agree - strange that they were able to get that far.
41 posted on 01/19/2005 11:50:32 AM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: 3AngelaD; mystery-ak

The lack of security at WR is widely known and has been discussed here before. You don't suppose the reporters drove to DC without knowing that they could walk right in, do you?


42 posted on 01/19/2005 11:52:03 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: wtc911

Not everyone knows this....I stand by my post.


43 posted on 01/19/2005 11:55:06 AM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: wtc911

How does ANYBODY get into that facility "unannounced, uninvited, and unescorted"? Sounds like a major security problem. Not everybody thinks the patients are heroes . . .


44 posted on 01/19/2005 11:58:18 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: wtc911

If they were unannounced, uninvited and unescorted, how the hell did they get through the front door? Somebody not doing their job?


45 posted on 01/19/2005 11:58:47 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: wtc911

Lt. Col Tim Ryan:
I believe one of the reasons for this shallow and subjective reporting is that many reporters never actually cover the events they report on. This is a point of growing concern within the Coalition. It appears many members of the media are hesitant to venture beyond the relative safety of the so-called "International Zone" in downtown Baghdad, or similar "safe havens" in other large cities. Because terrorists and other thugs wisely target western media members and others for kidnappings or attacks, the westerners stay close to their quarters. This has the effect of holding the media captive in cities and keeps them away from the broader truth that lies outside their view. With the press thus cornered, the terrorists easily feed their unwitting captives a thin gruel of anarchy, one spoonful each day. A car bomb at the entry point to the International Zone one day, a few mortars the next, maybe a kidnapping or two thrown in. All delivered to the doorsteps of those who will gladly accept it without having to leave their hotel rooms -- how convenient.

The scene is repeated all too often: an attack takes place in Baghdad and the morning sounds are punctuated by a large explosion and a rising cloud of smoke. Sirens wail in the distance and photographers dash to the scene a few miles away. Within the hour, stern-faced reporters confidently stare into the camera while standing on the balcony of their tenth-floor Baghdad hotel room, their back to the city and a distant smoke plume rising behind them. More mayhem in Gotham City they intone, and just in time for the morning news. There is a transparent reason why the majority of car bombings and other major events take place before noon Baghdad-time; any later and the event would miss the start of the morning news cycle on the U.S. east coast. These terrorists aren't stupid; they know just what to do to scare the masses and when to do it. An important key to their plan is manipulation of the news media. But, at least the reporters in Iraq are gathering information and filing their stories, regardless of whether or the stories are in perspective. Much worse are the "talking heads" who sit in studios or offices back home and pontificate about how badly things are going when they never have been to Iraq and only occasionally leave Manhattan.


46 posted on 01/19/2005 11:59:12 AM PST by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: wtc911
The Times people entered the facility unannounced, uninvited and unescorted.

They should have not left unarrested. "MP, arrest these men claiming to be reporters. Since they are uncredentialed, they may be terrorist infiltrators."

47 posted on 01/19/2005 12:00:25 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: wtc911

Cowards should not be alowed to polute a place of honor like Walter Reed.


48 posted on 01/19/2005 12:00:34 PM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: mystery-ak
You shouldn't of posted that on an open forum!

Terrorists have eyes. They can see soft security as well as anyone else.

49 posted on 01/19/2005 12:01:33 PM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Tacis
"What difference does it make? The NYT folks will just make stuff up..."

They're practitioners of the Jayson Blair style of journalism. No interviews, just copy another reporter's story and call it in from the local bar.

50 posted on 01/19/2005 12:02:34 PM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: mass55th
If they were unannounced, uninvited and unescorted, how the hell did they get through the front door? Somebody not doing their job?

You'd be surprised how many doors a press ID will open. Soldiers, especially, are hesitant to stop a reporter.

51 posted on 01/19/2005 12:02:59 PM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: LexBaird

MP: "If you wanna feel our heroes' pain, lemme break your legs before we let ya go"


52 posted on 01/19/2005 12:03:38 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: Modernman

Yes, they have eyes and can read...my hubby was at WR for 10 days in April, after Iraq....he knows this and would never dream of posting it on an open forum.


53 posted on 01/19/2005 12:04:20 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: wtc911; All
Quote:
the Times's new publisher, Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger Jr ... was a sixties anti-war activist who famously declared that in a confrontation between an American and a North Vietnamese soldier he'd want to see the American get shot."
Unquote.
Stanley Kurtz (NRO on line, June 5, 2001)

(These bums ought to interview the Sulzberger family idiot a/k/a their boss.

54 posted on 01/19/2005 12:06:01 PM PST by aculeus
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To: mystery-ak

You might be right, I'll ask to remove it.


55 posted on 01/19/2005 12:06:20 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: wtc911

Thank you.....


56 posted on 01/19/2005 12:08:10 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: mystery-ak
Yes, they have eyes and can read...my hubby was at WR for 10 days in April, after Iraq....he knows this and would never dream of posting it on an open forum.

Other people read this forum, too. Some of them work for the military and maybe even at Walter Reed. By posting the problem in public, it opens the possibility that someone, somewhere will do something to fix it.

It's sort of like when reporters sneak fake weapons through airport security to show the TSA's failings. Would you rather that they not expose the problem?

57 posted on 01/19/2005 12:09:04 PM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: wtc911

"How many innocent children did you slaughter for the War Pig before you spilled your blood for Haliburton ?"


58 posted on 01/19/2005 12:09:24 PM PST by martin gibson
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To: wtc911; Alamo-Girl
Their favorite question when I was active duty was, "How do you feeeeeeellllll?"

To trust a newspaper guy is to practice gross negligence.

59 posted on 01/19/2005 12:09:35 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Modernman

I want the problem fixed, of course....but I also don't want to futher endanger our wounded troops....a few calls to Cap Hill might get the job done.


60 posted on 01/19/2005 12:12:51 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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